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07-12-2005, 04:07 PM
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Country: | I think an oil line fractured and was ignited by the manifold Evan
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07-12-2005, 04:17 PM
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#17 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | That is probable. Either way, the guys running the extinguishers need better training. We get qualified every year with extinguishers for airplanes at our museum. With oil and fuel fires, misuse of the extinguisher can actually make the fire worse. Of course, if it's fully engulfed, get the hell out of there before it gets to the tanks.
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07-12-2005, 04:25 PM
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#18 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Just saw the film, one guy seems to be using a portable extinguisher that was quickly consumed. This seems to be a class "A" CO2 extinguisher when the fire, if from a fractured oild line, should of been a class "B."
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07-12-2005, 04:30 PM
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#19 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Yes, it was a very amateur effort, while valiant, was ineffective and could have been dangerous. I hate to see that, especially with antique airplanes.
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07-13-2005, 02:59 PM
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Country: | A two part PBY-5A snippet both quite long but I think not too bad and worth the wait if you like the Catalina
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07-14-2005, 01:58 PM
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Country: | Rolls Royce Griffon and a pair of Merlins give a static display
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07-14-2005, 02:15 PM
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#22 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Nice videos. It's a shame about that wing fire in one of the previous vids, but it could have been a lot worse I guess.
I agree with the guys, those fellas putting out the fire didn't seem to have a clue what they were doing. Fire extinguishers are quite simple to use if you know how, and like FBJ said, it's important to know what type to use on any given fire. A half-day of fire fighting training is about all it would take. Maybe less. |
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07-14-2005, 03:00 PM
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Country: | I dont think they even had any extinguishers very close to hand Skim which for an aircraft that had a full load of passengers was very dodgy I thought.
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07-14-2005, 03:12 PM
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#24 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | That's kind of odd. For us at the museum, we can't even do an engine start without at least one extinguisher nearby. Typically the ground marshall will have one and watch the aircraft at start to make sure that he isn't giving too much prime. The marshall can spot that quickly as it will almost always cause an exhaust stack fire. Hand signals will indicate that and the pilot will know to decrease the prime and the stack fire will extinguish.
For the multi engine, the marshall stands to one side of the aircraft while another fire-spotter will stand on the other side. I am quite surprised that a museum like Duxford does not use the same procedures. We are not allowed to start any engine without a fire bottle at the ready.
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07-14-2005, 04:31 PM
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Country: | Nice videos trackend look forward to seeing some more when your done.
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07-14-2005, 04:33 PM
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#26 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Great Lanc videos. 
BTW, The Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum is near Hamilton, not in Toronto like that announcer said. |
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07-14-2005, 10:51 PM
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#27 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Nice vids again, trackend!
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07-15-2005, 10:27 AM
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Country: | Cheers for that Evan at least it makes me feel that its worth posting them.
I noticed that you live not far from Camarillo off the 101 does it take you long to drive there?. it looks quite convenient for both the airfield,the city and Mugu park
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07-15-2005, 11:19 AM
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#29 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Well, I'm not in Thousand Oaks anymore, but in Moorpark, which is just North and West of Thousand Oaks. To the airport is about 15-20 minutes without traffic from either location. Where I live now is almost all residential homes, with a few shops and restaurants. But there is plenty of other stores and such about 10-15 minutes away in either TO or Simi Valley.
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07-16-2005, 12:34 AM
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Country: | Sounds a nice area Evan Im about an 1hr 10 from Duxford so Its pretty conveniant. I forgot to enquire how your move went by the way Evan any major hitches or was it a smooth military style operation? 
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