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evangilder · 01-14-2005, 03:08 PM

O2 bottle most certainly were used in US aircraft. The F2 oxygen tank was carried in the P-51 and the P-47, probably several others as well. The bombers carried O2 tanks in static and portable configurations. Portables enabled them to move around the bomber when needed.

Aiming at the cockpit was so effective because there was no armor to protect the pilot.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-14-2005, 04:47 PM

the ONLY peice of armour plating in the lanc was behind the pilots head

evangilder · 01-14-2005, 04:49 PM

Yikes! Might want to sit on a flak jacket to protect the pods.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-14-2005, 04:51 PM

yes the pilot was a lucky lucky man..............

evangilder · 01-14-2005, 04:52 PM

He was the ONLY one.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-14-2005, 05:09 PM

well the bomb aimer got a damn good view of the target, and when lit up it would be spectacular...........

evangilder · 01-14-2005, 05:14 PM

I often thought that it must have been a heck of a sight to see, especially the night bombing missions. With the flashes and smoke, it must have been something.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-14-2005, 05:19 PM

i'd love to see if but only if i knew i was safe like, if you know waht i mean.............

evangilder · 01-14-2005, 05:25 PM

I know what you mean. Something to see, but not while being shot at!

01-14-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich

oxygen bottles were used on B-17's as I have mission reports for January 14, 1945 where the US 2nd bg group were devastated by Sturm Fw's if II.Sturm/JG 300. Several cases of suriving crewmen noting this before bailing out.

O2 bottles were carried stowed in case the O2 generator failed (or was damaged) or there was a breach of a line. I don't think the pilots or crew relied on them as a primary source of O2, and if stowed they were reasonably well protected.

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Lunatic

01-14-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

O2 bottle most certainly were used in US aircraft. The F2 oxygen tank was carried in the P-51 and the P-47, probably several others as well. The bombers carried O2 tanks in static and portable configurations. Portables enabled them to move around the bomber when needed.

Aiming at the cockpit was so effective because there was no armor to protect the pilot.

I believe the only O2 tanks on US fighters were for emergency reserve. They didn't carry enough O2 to last the whole of a mission, just enough to cover an emergency at altitude.

I could be wrong, it's been a long time since I read about the use of O2 generators vs. bottles.

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Lunatic

Erich · 01-14-2005, 06:37 PM

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I am not sure where the Oxy bottles were carried but it does mention in numerous reports of things going boom within the heavies and total chaos ensued. a death-trap, besides watching crewmen get de-capitated and holes being blown out of the fuselage and the engines being ripped apart............watching the neighboring heavies getting blown up was grim enough, not having to deal with it on a personal level.

evangilder · 01-14-2005, 07:03 PM

Well, if you have ever walked through a B-17 or B-24, there are O2 bottles in alot of different places. Going through the rear door on a B-24, there are 4 of them directly above you, good sized ones. I don't know if they were reserve or not, but certainly were not something I'd wnt to be near when the fit hit the shan. I will dig up my pictures and post a few. They are there, quite a few.

Erich · 01-14-2005, 07:06 PM

duh, man I am so dense today, can't write, think or.....yes of course pics. have them both of B-24's and the B-17, visited on several occassions at our local goofy Flügplatz

Evan good reminder

E ♣

evangilder · 01-15-2005, 08:36 AM

I found some shots of the O2 bottles in my collection. Some of these are mine, some are from others. The B-17 had several O2 bottles under the floor, so they were not as visible in normal viewing. Whereas on the B-24, they were obviously more visible in the aft section.

While there seems to be a question as to which oxygen system they used, O2 generators or bottled, they had bottles inside. Needless to say, when hit by an incendiary round, it adds extra explosive effect. A nightmare scenario.

01-14-2005, 03:08 PM	#136
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	O2 bottle most certainly were used in US aircraft. The F2 oxygen tank was carried in the P-51 and the P-47, probably several others as well. The bombers carried O2 tanks in static and portable configurations. Portables enabled them to move around the bomber when needed. Aiming at the cockpit was so effective because there was no armor to protect the pilot. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 04:47 PM	#137
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	the ONLY peice of armour plating in the lanc was behind the pilots head __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-14-2005, 04:49 PM	#138
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Yikes! Might want to sit on a flak jacket to protect the pods. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 04:51 PM	#139
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	yes the pilot was a lucky lucky man.............. __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-14-2005, 04:52 PM	#140
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	He was the ONLY one. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 05:09 PM	#141
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	well the bomb aimer got a damn good view of the target, and when lit up it would be spectacular........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-14-2005, 05:14 PM	#142
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I often thought that it must have been a heck of a sight to see, especially the night bombing missions. With the flashes and smoke, it must have been something. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 05:19 PM	#143
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	i'd love to see if but only if i knew i was safe like, if you know waht i mean............. __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-14-2005, 05:25 PM	#144
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I know what you mean. Something to see, but not while being shot at! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 06:37 PM	#147
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	=S= I am not sure where the Oxy bottles were carried but it does mention in numerous reports of things going boom within the heavies and total chaos ensued. a death-trap, besides watching crewmen get de-capitated and holes being blown out of the fuselage and the engines being ripped apart............watching the neighboring heavies getting blown up was grim enough, not having to deal with it on a personal level. __________________ Rip it up !

01-14-2005, 07:03 PM	#148
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Well, if you have ever walked through a B-17 or B-24, there are O2 bottles in alot of different places. Going through the rear door on a B-24, there are 4 of them directly above you, good sized ones. I don't know if they were reserve or not, but certainly were not something I'd wnt to be near when the fit hit the shan. I will dig up my pictures and post a few. They are there, quite a few. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-14-2005, 07:06 PM	#149
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	duh, man I am so dense today, can't write, think or.....yes of course pics. have them both of B-24's and the B-17, visited on several occassions at our local goofy Flügplatz Evan good reminder E ♣ __________________ Rip it up !

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