German Guncam footage - Page 12 - Aircraft of World War II

01-16-2005, 01:15 AM

Yes the web is always a risky source of info. Sites that give sources are usually pretty reliable though.

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the lancaster kicks ass · 01-16-2005, 10:02 AM

don't trust TG planes..........

evangilder · 01-16-2005, 10:30 AM

Usually yes, but I still check. I have been editing documents in the past and checked to find I transposed a number or had fingers on the wrong keys. It is possible that someone else could do the same.

hellmaker · 03-22-2005, 10:09 AM

Lucky me I'm a student and I have a powerfull network connection...

I'll download it in a matter of minutes and tell you all about it...

I'm sorry... I'm only kiddin...It's not in my nature to mock someone... But I do hope I'll see the clip quite in a short while...
... I'm edditing this message..
I've just seen the movie and it's both terrifing and awsome...

cheddar cheese · 03-22-2005, 03:46 PM

Yeah I seen it too, s'good

CharlesBronson · 03-22-2005, 07:20 PM

And here is another, this is a guncam from a BF-109 in wich you can see a Messer attacking a Spitfire wich is already shooting at one Ju-88

hellmaker · 03-23-2005, 02:36 AM

Man... those clips are great... cold blooded camera-men... It's terrifing only looking at them... just imagine how it wold have been for the pilots who actually took part in that dogfight(given they survived) to see this mini-movie... I guess it wuold have been a turn on...

CharlesBronson · 03-26-2005, 01:13 PM

A clasic, B-17 blasted by large calibre explosive shells.

03-26-2005, 02:12 PM

I think in the "30mm" film, those are actually 20mm.

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CharlesBronson · 03-27-2005, 01:57 PM

Attack on Hurricanes, spitfires, P-40 and B-17

03-27-2005, 02:17 PM

What I find most interesting about all GE guncam footage against Allied fighters is how very close they had to get. Allied guncam footage, especially American, shows that they could fire from 2-3 times that range for good effect.

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CharlesBronson · 03-27-2005, 03:42 PM

I read sometime a phrase atributed to Hartmann wich was: " Get close...until he fill the windscreen"

Sure it work for him.

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-27-2005, 03:49 PM

well was it because our gunsights were better than theirs??

03-27-2005, 05:41 PM

No, it was because they had one 20mm with poor ballistics and two 7.9mm's with poor ballistics. You had to get close to land hits, and with only 150 rounds of ammo in the 20mm, you could not waste it on longer shots.

With six .50's with 270 or 400 rpg, with excellent ballistics, you could score from further out and you could afford the ammo to take the longer shots.

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CharlesBronson · 03-28-2005, 02:32 PM

BF-109 bouncing another fighter at low altitude. I am not sure about the allied aircraft. It looks like a Mustang Mk-1 or a P-51B.

01-16-2005, 10:02 AM	#167
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	don't trust TG planes.......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-16-2005, 10:30 AM	#168
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Usually yes, but I still check. I have been editing documents in the past and checked to find I transposed a number or had fingers on the wrong keys. It is possible that someone else could do the same. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

03-22-2005, 10:09 AM	#169
hellmaker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ploiesti Posts: 193	Lucky me I'm a student and I have a powerfull network connection... I'll download it in a matter of minutes and tell you all about it... I'm sorry... I'm only kiddin...It's not in my nature to mock someone... But I do hope I'll see the clip quite in a short while... ... I'm edditing this message.. I've just seen the movie and it's both terrifing and awsome... __________________

03-23-2005, 02:36 AM	#172
hellmaker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ploiesti Posts: 193	Man... those clips are great... cold blooded camera-men... It's terrifing only looking at them... just imagine how it wold have been for the pilots who actually took part in that dogfight(given they survived) to see this mini-movie... I guess it wuold have been a turn on... __________________

03-27-2005, 03:49 PM	#178
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	well was it because our gunsights were better than theirs?? __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-16-2005, 01:15 AM	#166
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Yes the web is always a risky source of info. Sites that give sources are usually pretty reliable though. =S= Lunatic

03-22-2005, 03:46 PM	#170
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Yeah I seen it too, s'good

03-26-2005, 02:12 PM	#174
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	I think in the "30mm" film, those are actually 20mm. =S= Lunatic

03-27-2005, 02:17 PM	#176
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	What I find most interesting about all GE guncam footage against Allied fighters is how very close they had to get. Allied guncam footage, especially American, shows that they could fire from 2-3 times that range for good effect. =S= Lunatic

03-27-2005, 03:42 PM	#177
CharlesBronson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cordoba - Argentina Posts: 2,999	I read sometime a phrase atributed to Hartmann wich was: " Get close...until he fill the windscreen" Sure it work for him.

03-27-2005, 05:41 PM	#179
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	No, it was because they had one 20mm with poor ballistics and two 7.9mm's with poor ballistics. You had to get close to land hits, and with only 150 rounds of ammo in the 20mm, you could not waste it on longer shots. With six .50's with 270 or 400 rpg, with excellent ballistics, you could score from further out and you could afford the ammo to take the longer shots. =S= Lunatic

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