 | James "Pug" Southerland vs Saburo Sakai| Aviation Videos Discuss James "Pug" Southerland vs Saburo Sakai in the World War II - Aviation forums; I just watched a very interesting TV program (called secrets of the dead) on PBS about the famous dogfight between ... |
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11-08-2006, 09:04 PM
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I just watched a very interesting TV program (called secrets of the dead) on PBS about the famous dogfight between Pug and Saburo. During that program Sakai called Pug a great pilot and was amazed how good of a pilot he was. Sakai said he had never seen anyone fly a plane like he had. Pug fought off several other Zeros in his Wildcat, shooting them down. Sakai after watching his wingmen get shot up by this Wildcat pilot decided to come into the fight and shoot this Wildcat down. After a long and prolonged fight between the two pilots where Sakai filled the Wildcat with bullets Pug reversed the favor and cut his power to his plane thus putting Sakai into his sights.
Sakai thought he was about to die at the hands of this clever USA pilot. But no bullets hit his plane to his amazement! (apparently it is believed that his guns jammed) The USA pilot was not firing at him. After a short bit Sakai got on Pugs tail again and pulled up beside Pugs wing and saw that Pug was hurt and bleeding. Sakai showed some mercy and decided just to shoot the Wildcats engine out, hoping the pilot inside would live. Sakai did finish off the Wildcat with a well aimed burst to the engine. Pug baled out before his plane crashed.
It was a very good show watch it you can. Here is a few links about it and pictures of Pug and Sakai. SECRETS OF THE DEAD . Dogfight Over Guadalcanal . Clues & Evidence | PBS Grumman F4F-4 Wildcat "Junior" Bureau Number 5192 Tail Number F-12 Thirteen/WNET - Online Pressroom - Press Release
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11-08-2006, 10:09 PM
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11-08-2006, 10:16 PM
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| That pacific wrecks website is great.
Ive known about it for a few years and have met the "wreck hunters" at the Chino Airshows.
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Originally Posted by Matt308  And he deliberately shot his engine out? Hmmm. That is amazing. I'll have to read your links as, no offense, that is mighty suspicious for a one-on-one single engine fighter battle. But there have been stranger things! Good post! | It did not start as a single vs single fighter dogfight. Pug's plane was hit already from Sakai's wingmen, before Pug shot them down. Then Pug came into the fight, from what I can gather or guess it sounds like 2 Jap Zeros damaged Pug's plane (before Pug shot them down), then Sakai came in and shot Pug's Wildcat up good. Sakai talks about the battle also in his book (which is a good read), Sakai said he must of hit the Wildcat with hundreds of rounds from his rifle cal. machine guns and the Wildcat just would not go down. Good old USA steel. 
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Originally Posted by syscom3 That pacific wrecks website is great.
Ive known about it for a few years and have met the "wreck hunters" at the Chino Airshows. |
Yes it shows actual parts from Pugs plane that they found. Amazing really. That is very cool syscom that you met them. They actually found one of the locals who found Pug on the beach after he bailed out, one of them actually is still alive. They interviewed him and he was telling them how he remembers finding this wounded USA pilot on the beach. Amazing
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[Hmm. See how that's done Syscom. It's kinda cathartic.}
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Okay. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
[Hmm. See how that's done Syscom. It's kinda cathartic.} | what?
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| I need to do one of my threads, "airfields of the PTO", for the Solomons (and Bismarks). So many airfields of historical significance.
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11-09-2006, 08:22 AM
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Then he flew 550 miles to Rabaul in that condition. I had always thought the bullet just skimmed his skull but it actually blew through his brain. That is just amazing! | |
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11-09-2006, 09:43 AM
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Yes that is true. After he shot down Pug Sakai went after a USA bomber. The tailgunner shot Sakai right threw the windshield. The bullet entered on thr right hand of his face and out the back. He survived but lost his vision in that eye. Here is a few pics of his actually helmet after he was shot in the head, it is on display now. The one pic you can see how the bullet wrecked his helmet and you can see blood on the side of it. Amazing
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