Ju-87 - Aircraft of World War II

cheddar cheese · 05-07-2005, 09:51 AM

Nice clip of some Stuka's doing their thing.

FLYBOYJ · 05-07-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese

Nice clip of some Stuka's doing their thing.

Very cool, I like to tank rising in the air when its hit!

cheddar cheese · 05-07-2005, 09:58 AM

Yeah, the hits are pretty damn accurate too.

FLYBOYJ · 05-07-2005, 09:59 AM

You're not kidding! My god, who needs a warthog?!?

Aggie08 · 05-08-2005, 09:03 PM

wow, cool footage... without fighters around to harass them i'll bet they really could make a huge impact, and with the whistles they had put on it would make them even more effective

Blitzkrieg Bop · 05-10-2005, 05:09 AM

Many of those 'heroes' where children and women killers..

But indeed, very interesting footage!

plan_D · 05-10-2005, 05:17 AM

They might have killed a woman or child. So did the Allied and Soviet air forces.

evangilder · 05-10-2005, 06:08 AM

It's not like the iron bombs of those days could discriminate between combatant and non-combatant. Plan_d is right, it happened on both sides.

Aggie08 · 05-10-2005, 01:23 PM

the winner writes the history books, and every german gets a bad reputation regardless of what they did, there were honorable men on each side as well as real bad dudes

HealzDevo · 05-10-2005, 08:16 PM

But then you have the fact that the Germans did actually knowingly strafe civilian columns of women and children with the Stukas. This is very different as the actual target to cause panic was the women and children. Also Germany had followed this terror bombing from Poland, France to Britain of deliberately bombing targets knowing there were civilians there. I think the Allies when they were doing the city bombing were more concerned with taking out infrastructure such as police stations and factories. However, they really didn't have the real time tracking capabilities that the military has today. They had to rely on Resistence members picking out targets in cities that needed to be bombed.

evangilder · 05-10-2005, 09:19 PM

I have to disagree somewhat. When the allies bombed cities, thay also knew that civilians were there. Granted, there were military targets as well, but Dresden and Tokyo are good examples of overkill. I am certainly not going to say it was wrong, but want to point out that both sides did it.

CharlesBronson · 05-17-2005, 08:59 PM

junkers JU-87G-2 attacking russian JS-2 tank.

Erich · 05-17-2005, 11:31 PM

CB I can;t seem to get your G-2 mpeg to run...

not having zip drive I pose the question about the above doc film. How does anyone know for fact that the certain Stuka unit bombing armored vehicles was indeed responsible for strafing civilians. quite a bit of generalization gentlemen with out documented facts................shame

lesofprimus · 05-17-2005, 11:36 PM

Nice clip....... Im wondering if thats an actual sound bite, or added for effect.......

CharlesBronson · 05-18-2005, 10:05 AM

Erich

I am not sure why you dont see the clip, it should run with the estandar windows media.

Aniway the zip extractor can be downloaded from here:

http://www.winzip.com/downwz.htm

05-07-2005, 09:59 AM	#4
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05-08-2005, 09:03 PM	#5
Aggie08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,013	wow, cool footage... without fighters around to harass them i'll bet they really could make a huge impact, and with the whistles they had put on it would make them even more effective __________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..." Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group Matt

05-10-2005, 05:09 AM	#6
Blitzkrieg Bop Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 135	Many of those 'heroes' where children and women killers.. But indeed, very interesting footage! __________________ we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

05-10-2005, 05:17 AM	#7
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	They might have killed a woman or child. So did the Allied and Soviet air forces. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

05-10-2005, 06:08 AM	#8
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,408	It's not like the iron bombs of those days could discriminate between combatant and non-combatant. Plan_d is right, it happened on both sides. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

05-07-2005, 09:58 AM	#3
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Yeah, the hits are pretty damn accurate too.

05-10-2005, 01:23 PM	#9
Aggie08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,013	the winner writes the history books, and every german gets a bad reputation regardless of what they did, there were honorable men on each side as well as real bad dudes __________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..." Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group Matt

05-10-2005, 08:16 PM	#10
HealzDevo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Queensland Posts: 1,251	But then you have the fact that the Germans did actually knowingly strafe civilian columns of women and children with the Stukas. This is very different as the actual target to cause panic was the women and children. Also Germany had followed this terror bombing from Poland, France to Britain of deliberately bombing targets knowing there were civilians there. I think the Allies when they were doing the city bombing were more concerned with taking out infrastructure such as police stations and factories. However, they really didn't have the real time tracking capabilities that the military has today. They had to rely on Resistence members picking out targets in cities that needed to be bombed. __________________ http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/alb...500&ppuser=671 Link To My Picture Gallery

05-10-2005, 09:19 PM	#11
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,408	I have to disagree somewhat. When the allies bombed cities, thay also knew that civilians were there. Granted, there were military targets as well, but Dresden and Tokyo are good examples of overkill. I am certainly not going to say it was wrong, but want to point out that both sides did it. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

05-17-2005, 11:31 PM	#13
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,093	CB I can;t seem to get your G-2 mpeg to run... not having zip drive I pose the question about the above doc film. How does anyone know for fact that the certain Stuka unit bombing armored vehicles was indeed responsible for strafing civilians. quite a bit of generalization gentlemen with out documented facts................shame __________________ Rip it up !

05-17-2005, 11:36 PM	#14
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,443	Nice clip....... Im wondering if thats an actual sound bite, or added for effect....... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

05-18-2005, 10:05 AM	#15
CharlesBronson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cordoba - Argentina Posts: 3,145	Erich I am not sure why you dont see the clip, it should run with the estandar windows media. Aniway the zip extractor can be downloaded from here: http://www.winzip.com/downwz.htm

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