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Old 05-11-2009, 05:16 PM   #1
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190 Vs 51

Last weekend, Rocketeer and I went to the annual Aerojumble at Popham. amazingly, this year, even tho' it was the first of the May Bank Holidays...it didnt rain ! Looked like it might have but essentially this year it remained dry. Just dark, menacing and very windy (but thats enough about me !.

I havent been to this airfield since the same event two years previous and was rather surprised to see what looked to be Mustang down on the deck running in for a flyby. Actually, it wasnt a 'Stang but a Jurca M-77 Gnatsum, registered F-PANG. The current owner has plans to get it registered here in the UK. It did sound nice with its inline Potez 4D34C of 260 h.p. Supercharged as well I believe !.

Then I spied something a bit unusual as well, parked around the corner. and I 'm cussing myself left, right and centre, cos I forgot to gets its No then I could have got the details for you. I think its a WAR replica, but will promise to get more info later.

Thats two replica warbirds on the same airfield !. I'm quite impressed.

So, to the title of this thread... 190 Vs 51...which one do you think looks the most like its full size counterpart ?
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"I’ll never worry about meeting a FW 190 in a 51 since I was able to outturn, outdive and generally out-maneuver him at all altitudes, from 23,000 feet to the deck; I could follow him in anything and do a lot more besides.” Richard D Bishop, 11 Sept 1944, 55th FG

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Old 05-11-2009, 05:20 PM   #2
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I'd say too that those are replicas, esp. if one judge by the engine cowlings.
But, boy, wouldn't it be great to own one...
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Hi Geedee,

>Thats two replica warbirds on the same airfield !. I'm quite impressed.

Nice find! :-) I particularly like the "illusionistic" paint scheme of the Mustang which does a great job in hiding the larger chin of the replica.

By the way, Roland Beamont in 1980 test-flew a 1:2 scale Focke-Wulf Fw 190 replica registered as G-WULF. Judging from his description in "Fighter Test Pilot", it flew rather well!

I have seen a small-scale Fw 190 replica once or twice at airshows, but it always managed to avoid getting "shot" by my camera - I swear its small size makes for very difficult detection! (I got some ground shots though which aren't digitized yet.)

Here is an ultralight Me 109 look-a-bit-alike - not a real contender for the "most realistic recreation" award, but I admit that I at least fell for it since I was very far away at the moment, frantically trying to mount the long telephoto to my camera, and angrily cursing the airshow organizers for deviating from the published programme and re-scheduling the Me 109 to perform hours earlier! Made quite a fool of myself there ... :-)

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Old 05-11-2009, 10:27 PM   #4
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Great photographs.
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I'd say too that those are replicas, esp. if one judge by the engine cowlings.
But, boy, wouldn't it be great to own one...
Yes they are replicas. The Mustang (Jurca) is a plans built 3/4 scale plane and I believe the WAR 190 is a plans built 1/2 scale one....tall pilots need not apply !

As you say, be good to have one parked up at your local field.

And Henning, thats a great looking 109.
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Nice shots, both are certainly good replicas and would fool a lot of people at first glance.
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Those are both nice looking planes. Thanks for sharing the pics.
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Both are great looking replicas. The wood finish on the Fw-190 prop messes up the illusion.
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Both are great looking replicas. The wood finish on the Fw-190 prop messes up the illusion.

yeah that bugged me too. I'd like to see them in a war movie instead of CG.

thanks for the photos.
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Both are nice replicas, but I will go with the FW 190 all the way

By the way, I notices that in some pictures the tail svastica is covered with paint. is that for legal reasons? (like it is not allowed to display the svastica) or is the work of vandals.

Funny, but in other pictures the svastica looks clean.
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Both are nice replicas, but I will go with the FW 190 all the way

By the way, I notices that in some pictures the tail svastica is covered with paint. is that for legal reasons? (like it is not allowed to display the svastica) or is the work of vandals.

Funny, but in other pictures the svastica looks clean.
In some of the shots, the markings on the tail where covered with a 'sheet' of some sort and held on with red masking tape. This is while the A/C is parked up and not being used. When it comes out to play, the covering is removed.

As you also say, it may be so the PC brigade dont get too upset.
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A few years ago, in Boulder, CO, I heard an engine sound like a RR Merlin, turned around and saw what looked like a Spitfire landing at the local airport. I was not close enough to get a good look or go to the field but I have always wondered if I saw what I think I saw.
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I'd say the 51 looks closer to the real deal.


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