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Old 09-26-2005, 06:20 PM   #16
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Fighter Spitfire
Heavy Fighter Me110
Support Bomber Ju88
Heavy Bomber Wellington
Anti Submarine Sunderland

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109 for Spitfire. Went with the Spit due to guns and Speed
Fokker G1 for Me110. G1 lost due to speed. It wasn't that fast and a 110 could run from anything in 1939 apart from a Spitfire. plus had devistating firepower for the period.
He111 for Wellington. The Wellington was a better all round plane.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:30 PM   #17
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but 1n 39 the 110 was a fighter whereas the g1 was fighter/ ground support with heavy weapons 8 x 7.9 mm and 2 x23 mm cannon plus bombs as opposed to 4 x 7.9 and 2 x 20mm
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:00 PM   #18
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I am afraid that I cannot find my notes on this plane but from memory the G1 didn't carry 2 x 23 plus 8 x LMG, it was either 2 x 23 or 8 x LMG and most if not all of them carried the 8 x LMG. That said 8 LMG in the nose in 1939 was an impressive amount of firepower remembering that few if any aircraft had Armour or self sealing fuel tanks..
The G1 was very agile and capable of taking on the single engined fighters of the day. I can only say that what made me select the 110 was the speed, dive and additional power of the Cannon. Its a choice
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:51 PM   #19
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your right i missed the comma in my reference it was 2 lmg and 2 cannon or 8 lmg well ithought i was perfect but am mistaken wheres all the guys with p36
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:41 PM   #20
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Fighter-Bf-109
Heavy Fighter-Bf-110
Ground support-Breda Ba-65
Main bomber-Mitsubishi G3M
Carrier fighter-A5M4 Claude
trainer-AT6
Coastal defence/torpedoe bomber-SIAI SM.79
Coastal patrol or bomber-CANT Z.506
Fighter/bomber-Ki-27
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:08 PM   #21
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Anti Submarine Sunderland
Excellent pick. I had forgotten about that plane.

We could make a whole new thread..."Catalina vs Sunderland".
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:46 AM   #23
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Fighter- Supermarine Spitfire Mk 1

Fighter 2- Messerschmitt Bf-109E4

Fighter Bomber- Curtiss Hawk 75A

Heavy Fighter Bomber/Night Fighter- Messerschmitt Bf-110C4

Carrier Fighter- Brewster F2A1

STOL/Liasion- Westland Lysander

Seaplane- Short Sunderland

Attack Bomber- Bloch 174

Dive Bomber- Junkers Ju-87B

Medium Bomber- Douglas DB-7 Boston II

Medium Bomber2- Junkers Ju-88

Heavy Bomber- B-17B

Maratime Bomber- Cant Z.1007bis Alcione

Torpeedo Bomber- Douglas TDB Devestator

Glider- D.F.S. 230

Transport- Converted Wellington III

Probably gone a little overboard here with 16 different types, but it did get me thinking.

Other types that I couldn't really find a place for but wanted include: Bristol Beaufort Mk I, Dewointe D.520, He-111H, PBY Catalina, Feisler Storcj, Polikarpof Po-2, and the HK6 Emily.
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Well this would be my list for 1939, It would drasticallychange though later in the war.

Fighter - Bf-109E
Heavy Fighter - Bf-110
Ground Support/Dive Bomber - Ju-87 Stuka
Heavy Bomber - B-17 (yeah it was crap but it was still probably the best one out there at the time)
Trainer - T-6 Texan
Medium Bomber - He-111
All Purpose Bomber - Ju-88
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Nice lists Jabberwocky and Alder!
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Ki27
Hurricane
Ju88
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Nice list there also.
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If I could choose anything from the get go, these would be my choices:

Recon/Patrol: Catalina PBY5
Attack/Close-support: Hurricane IV/IID, Il-2
Naval Fighter/Fighter bomber: F4F3/F4F4
Fighter/Interceptor: P38
Fighter/Fighter bomber: P40, Airacobra
Nightfighter: P-70
Bomber: B-29
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:15 PM   #29
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MacArther. Suggest you check the heading of the thread, in particular the bit that says 1939.
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If I could choose anything from the get go, these would be my choices:

Recon/Patrol: Catalina PBY5
Attack/Close-support: Hurricane IV/IID, Il-2
Naval Fighter/Fighter bomber: F4F3/F4F4
Fighter/Interceptor: P38
Fighter/Fighter bomber: P40, Airacobra
Nightfighter: P-70
Bomber: B-29
MacArther this list is 1939 only.

Nice list JCS.
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