 | 1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like| Aviation Discuss 1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like in the World War II - Aviation forums; ah but remember adler in 1939 the bf-110 was better than the -38, principly becuase the -38 had only ... |
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10-04-2005, 01:29 PM
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#46 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | ah but remember adler in 1939 the bf-110 was better than the -38, principly becuase the -38 had only just flown as a prototype...........
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10-04-2005, 05:07 PM
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#47 | | Der Crewchief
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10-04-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Yeah but the prototype was still probably better.... | Probably
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10-04-2005, 05:19 PM
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#49 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The Bf-110 was a good idea and design that flopped in my opinion. It never really became what the Germans wanted it to be. It was a really great night fighter though.
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10-04-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The Bf-110 was a good idea and design that flopped in my opinion. It never really became what the Germans wanted it to be. It was a really great night fighter though. | I'd agree with that Alder. The British were more afraid of it that the 109 before the Battle of Britain but it never was a good heavy fighter but it was an excellent night fighter. It was not manouverable enough to combat single engined fighters but it was fine against bombers at night.
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10-05-2005, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdler I do like you trainer the tiger moth. I would love to fly one. | You can (or could recently?) book a flight in the Argos catalogue!
On the Me110; I wonder if it had provided close escorts to the bombers in the BoB, to prevent head-on attacks. Allowing the Me109's to give top-cover, what would've happened?
Then after the bombers headed home, a bit of optional ground strafing? | |
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10-05-2005, 08:34 AM
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#52 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The Bf-110 was a good idea and design that flopped in my opinion. It never really became what the Germans wanted it to be. It was a really great night fighter though. | I'd agree with that Alder. The British were more afraid of it that the 109 before the Battle of Britain but it never was a good heavy fighter but it was an excellent night fighter. It was not manouverable enough to combat single engined fighters but it was fine against bombers at night. | My thoughts on it exactly. 
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10-05-2005, 01:17 PM
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#53 | | Master of Ewes
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On the Me110; I wonder if it had provided close escorts to the bombers in the BoB, to prevent head-on attacks
| having un-manouverable fighters at the head of a bomber formation won't stop head on attacks, if you see a fighter coming at you firing at you and approaching with a closing speed of 500mph you're gonna move outta it's way no matter what you're in, but i do agree the -110 shouldda made more ground attacks in the BoB.........
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10-05-2005, 01:38 PM
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On the Me110; I wonder if it had provided close escorts to the bombers in the BoB, to prevent head-on attacks
| having un-manouverable fighters at the head of a bomber formation won't stop head on attacks, if you see a fighter coming at you firing at you and approaching with a closing speed of 500mph you're gonna move outta it's way no matter what you're in, but i do agree the -110 shouldda made more ground attacks in the BoB......... | Agreed.
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10-05-2005, 03:47 PM
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| Can I suggest that the key word is operational and that suggested airforces exclude prototypes. There were lots of planes in the Prototype phase in 1939.
Apologies for those who want to pick the P38, but if you want the P38 can I have the Fw190? The Whirlwind would be a good choice for a twin engined fighter. | |
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10-05-2005, 06:14 PM
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Interceptor: Spitfire
Ground Attack/Fighter: Hawk-75
Maritime Patrol: PBY
And that's it. They can come to me. I'm not wasting resources on building bombers.
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10-06-2005, 12:20 AM
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| Ive put more thought into this since i last posted, and came to this conclusion.
Fighter-Me-109
Bomber-SM.79
Ground support-Cr.42
Fighter bomber-Ba.65
Transport-Ju/52
Carrier fighter-A5m4
Interceptor-Spitfire
Recon/battlefield observer-Fi-56 storch
Flying boat-sunderland
coastal bomber/recon- If the Fw-200 condor was then in service, then the condor. | |
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10-06-2005, 12:26 PM
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#59 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by plan_D Being British -
Interceptor: Spitfire
Ground Attack/Fighter: Hawk-75
Maritime Patrol: PBY
And that's it. They can come to me. I'm not wasting resources on building bombers. | Neither did Germany.....
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10-06-2005, 01:46 PM
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#60 | | Master of Ewes
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