1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like - Page 5 - Aircraft of World War II

plan_D · 10-06-2005, 07:37 PM

What do you mean, Adler, neither did Germany? Germany built the Ju-52, He-111, Ju-87, Do-17 and Ju-88 as bombers.

toffigd · 10-07-2005, 04:02 AM

Compare range of a He-111 with B-17 and you'll have the answer.
Germany had almost no "heavies".
As the He-111, Do-17 or Ju-88 was able to bomb British industry, as when Russians evacuated almost all their industry to Ural it was rather impossible...

plan_D · 10-07-2005, 04:55 AM

But I said I wouldn't waste resources on a bomber. Bomber does not refer directly to heavy bombers, it refers to anything that bombs. The He-111 was a bomber, no matter the range or payload.

If I was more specific and said "I wouldn't waste resources building heavy bombers." then that would be a viable answer. And the odds are Adler probably means that but still I said bombers, He-111 (and all the others) are bombers.

And I think this is a perfect moment to go; So there. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

toffigd · 10-07-2005, 05:45 AM

ok ok :P

plan_D · 10-07-2005, 05:56 AM

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-07-2005, 11:32 AM

Okay Plan_D if you say so and then my airforce will just bomb the **** out of you country and then invade! :P

Mosin · 11-28-2005, 09:05 PM

Well i was here a llooooong time ago. I got busy and jsut now got back. I still probably wont get back for awhile. But this is my list.
P-40 warhawk. Fighter
Junker 87 Dive Bomber
Texan .trainer
SM 79. Light bomber.
Heinkell 111. Bomber
Arado. Anti sub warfare plane. Coastel bomber
Junker 52. Transport
Messerschmitt 110. Fighter bomber

book1182 · 11-28-2005, 10:31 PM

Zero Escort Fighter
Hurrican Fighter
Val Dive Bomber
Wellington Bomber
C-47 Transport
Me-110 Fighter Bomber

syscom3 · 11-29-2005, 01:06 AM

Interesting you put down for a dive bomber, the "Val".

Id have ranked the Stuka as better than that.

Jabberwocky · 11-29-2005, 01:08 AM

Book and Mosin:

Neither the P-40 nor the Zero were available in 1939.

The first production P-40 was flown in April 1940 and deliveries to USAAF pursuit squadrons began in June.

The first Zeros were flown in 1939, but they were then reengined with Sakae 12 engines in December. The first production Zeros didn't arrive in service units until July, 1940.

the lancaster kicks ass · 11-29-2005, 11:43 AM

right, i've realised i haven't made a list yet, i've looked back and there doesn't seem to be any limit to the number of planes or what roles they have to have so it's free choice yeah?? and yeah, my airforce has a high liklihood of looking rather similar to the RAF

cheddar cheese · 11-29-2005, 11:50 AM

In the same way that mine would look suspisciously like the RA

the lancaster kicks ass · 11-29-2005, 12:38 PM

God can't you pick a superior nation to be patriotic too

cheddar cheese · 11-29-2005, 12:48 PM

Superior to the Italians? Not possible.

Gnomey · 11-29-2005, 12:49 PM

Lanc. CC, the French were (almost) superior to the Italians... and the British, we are in a different league completely (higher obvisiously)

10-06-2005, 07:37 PM	#61
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	What do you mean, Adler, neither did Germany? Germany built the Ju-52, He-111, Ju-87, Do-17 and Ju-88 as bombers. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

10-07-2005, 04:02 AM	#62
toffigd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gdansk, PL Posts: 316	Compare range of a He-111 with B-17 and you'll have the answer. Germany had almost no "heavies". As the He-111, Do-17 or Ju-88 was able to bomb British industry, as when Russians evacuated almost all their industry to Ural it was rather impossible... __________________ Pozdrawiam

10-07-2005, 04:55 AM	#63
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	But I said I wouldn't waste resources on a bomber. Bomber does not refer directly to heavy bombers, it refers to anything that bombs. The He-111 was a bomber, no matter the range or payload. If I was more specific and said "I wouldn't waste resources building heavy bombers." then that would be a viable answer. And the odds are Adler probably means that but still I said bombers, He-111 (and all the others) are bombers. And I think this is a perfect moment to go; So there. Nah, nah, nah, nah. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

10-07-2005, 05:45 AM	#64
toffigd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gdansk, PL Posts: 316	ok ok :P __________________ Pozdrawiam

10-07-2005, 05:56 AM	#65
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

10-07-2005, 11:32 AM	#66
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Okay Plan_D if you say so and then my airforce will just bomb the ** out of you country and then invade! :P __________________ fly boy:**"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

11-28-2005, 09:05 PM	#67
Mosin Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 35	Well i was here a llooooong time ago. I got busy and jsut now got back. I still probably wont get back for awhile. But this is my list. P-40 warhawk. Fighter Junker 87 Dive Bomber Texan .trainer SM 79. Light bomber. Heinkell 111. Bomber Arado. Anti sub warfare plane. Coastel bomber Junker 52. Transport Messerschmitt 110. Fighter bomber

11-28-2005, 10:31 PM	#68
book1182 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75	Zero Escort Fighter Hurrican Fighter Val Dive Bomber Wellington Bomber C-47 Transport Me-110 Fighter Bomber __________________ Get the greedy bastard...

11-29-2005, 01:06 AM	#69
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	Interesting you put down for a dive bomber, the "Val". Id have ranked the Stuka as better than that. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

11-29-2005, 01:08 AM	#70
Jabberwocky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 494	Book and Mosin: Neither the P-40 nor the Zero were available in 1939. The first production P-40 was flown in April 1940 and deliveries to USAAF pursuit squadrons began in June. The first Zeros were flown in 1939, but they were then reengined with Sakae 12 engines in December. The first production Zeros didn't arrive in service units until July, 1940.

11-29-2005, 11:43 AM	#71
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	right, i've realised i haven't made a list yet, i've looked back and there doesn't seem to be any limit to the number of planes or what roles they have to have so it's free choice yeah?? and yeah, my airforce has a high liklihood of looking rather similar to the RAF __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

11-29-2005, 11:50 AM	#72
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	In the same way that mine would look suspisciously like the RA

11-29-2005, 12:38 PM	#73
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	God can't you pick a superior nation to be patriotic too __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

11-29-2005, 12:48 PM	#74
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Superior to the Italians? Not possible.

11-29-2005, 12:49 PM	#75
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Lanc. CC, the French were (almost) superior to the Italians... and the British, we are in a different league completely (higher obvisiously) __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

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