1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like - Aircraft of World War II

pbfoot · 09-26-2005, 04:21 PM

fighter spitfire mk1
bomber ju88a
ground support fokker g.1
coastal patrol pby4
transport c-47
primary trainer dh 82 tiger moth
advanced trainer at 6 harvard (texan)
carrier fighter mitsubishi a5m4 claude

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carrier fighter

syscom3 · 09-26-2005, 05:02 PM

Good choices.
I would add:

heavy bomber B17

the lancaster kicks ass · 09-26-2005, 05:37 PM

are you kidding me! in 1939 the B-17 was a peace of junk!

syscom3 · 09-26-2005, 06:01 PM

Well, it was the only heavy bomber in the world in 1939. Better to have something than nothing. Even if it would have been the worlds first night bomber.

wmaxt · 09-26-2005, 06:07 PM

The Lanc didn't even exist - you got to start somewhere.

The choices were limited.

Bf-110
Hurricane
B-17
Bf-109
Ju-88
Spitfire
Ki-27
He-111
Whitworth
Wellington
G3M
P-35
Vega

Like Lanc pointed out they wern't all quite ready yet either. The B-17 needed epenage redesign, There were no P-38s, B-25s, F4Us, F-4Fs even most of the early British bombers were mere prototypes. All the planes mentioned above, in this para., were begining production to meet the light of day in '40.

Hard list to make since it is right on the line where more capable aircraft are about to come out and nobody was quite ready for the war just starting.

wmaxt

pbfoot · 09-26-2005, 06:11 PM

there always the stirling

Gnomey · 09-26-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmaxt

The Lanc didn't even exist - you got to start somewhere.

The choices were limited.

Bf-110
Hurricane
B-17
Bf-109
Ju-88
Spitfire
Ki-27
He-111
Whitworth
Wellington
G3M
P-35
Vega

Like Lanc pointed out they wern't all quite ready yet either. The B-17 needed epenage redesign, There were no P-38s, B-25s, F4Us, F-4Fs even most of the early British bombers were mere prototypes. All the planes mentioned above, in this para., were begining production to meet the light of day in '40.

Hard list to make since it is right on the line where more capable aircraft are about to come out and nobody was quite ready for the war just starting.

wmaxt

I agree with your comments. I would also agree with the list that you have chosen, it is a good list.

pbfoot · 09-26-2005, 06:14 PM

lots of choices polish belgian french dutch russian yugoslovia romania

wmaxt · 09-26-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbfoot

there always the stirling

The Sterling entered service in '40 along with the Halifax and the Pe-8

I had to cheat some, my reference is right beside me.

wmaxt

syscom3 · 09-26-2005, 06:19 PM

pbfoot = "lead foot"?

pbfoot · 09-26-2005, 06:20 PM

si senor.... the lanc was doing laps over head on saturday

pbfoot · 09-26-2005, 06:29 PM

7 squadron raf was using stirlings fall 39 according to raf website

wmaxt · 09-26-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

lots of choices polish belgian french dutch russian yugoslovia romania

The reference I have is pretty comprehensive but is limited to planes that made an impact so it is primarily French (the D.520 was '40), US, British, Italian, Russian and Japanese through the war years.

My reference is the Rand McNally Ency. of Military Aircraft ISBN0 517 05655-0.

BTW: I recomend that reference to any aviation buff, it contains charts of entry into service, color plates of both insignia and aircraft to the same scale and by major model complete with Spec blurbs on that model. The book also contains a good description of its history with a three view drawing.

wmaxt

lesofprimus · 09-26-2005, 06:38 PM

Which country was the dominate force in 1939???? The Japanese??? The Germans???

I would go with the German Luftwaffe and all that they had in thier inventory... They were almost unstoppable in 1939...

wmaxt · 09-26-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Which country was the dominate force in 1939???? The Japanese??? The Germans???

I would go with the German Luftwaffe and all that they had in thier inventory... They were almost unstoppable in 1939...

Air Force wise the Germans were ahead of everyone but the Japanese had already captured most of SE Aisa by then, making them about equal overall. The Japanese had started and the Germans just starting their war.

Mostly it was a matter of where you were.

wmaxt

09-26-2005, 04:21 PM	#1
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,547	1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like fighter spitfire mk1 bomber ju88a ground support fokker g.1 coastal patrol pby4 transport c-47 primary trainer dh 82 tiger moth advanced trainer at 6 harvard (texan) carrier fighter mitsubishi a5m4 claude 0 carrier fighter

09-26-2005, 05:02 PM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,186	Good choices. I would add: heavy bomber B17 __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

09-26-2005, 05:37 PM	#3
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	are you kidding me! in 1939 the B-17 was a peace of junk! __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

09-26-2005, 06:01 PM	#4
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,186	Well, it was the only heavy bomber in the world in 1939. Better to have something than nothing. Even if it would have been the worlds first night bomber. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

09-26-2005, 06:19 PM	#10
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,186	pbfoot = "lead foot"? __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

09-26-2005, 06:07 PM	#5
wmaxt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,175	The Lanc didn't even exist - you got to start somewhere. The choices were limited. Bf-110 Hurricane B-17 Bf-109 Ju-88 Spitfire Ki-27 He-111 Whitworth Wellington G3M P-35 Vega Like Lanc pointed out they wern't all quite ready yet either. The B-17 needed epenage redesign, There were no P-38s, B-25s, F4Us, F-4Fs even most of the early British bombers were mere prototypes. All the planes mentioned above, in this para., were begining production to meet the light of day in '40. Hard list to make since it is right on the line where more capable aircraft are about to come out and nobody was quite ready for the war just starting. wmaxt

09-26-2005, 06:11 PM	#6
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,547	there always the stirling

09-26-2005, 06:14 PM	#8
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,547	lots of choices polish belgian french dutch russian yugoslovia romania

09-26-2005, 06:20 PM	#11
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,547	si senor.... the lanc was doing laps over head on saturday

09-26-2005, 06:29 PM	#12
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,547	7 squadron raf was using stirlings fall 39 according to raf website

09-26-2005, 06:38 PM	#14
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,388	Which country was the dominate force in 1939???? The Japanese??? The Germans??? I would go with the German Luftwaffe and all that they had in thier inventory... They were almost unstoppable in 1939... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

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