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04-09-2005, 12:58 PM
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04-15-2005, 08:21 PM
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#92 | | Senior Member
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Country: | More pictures of italian fighters.
Reloading the 12,7 mm Bredas in a MC-200, 300 rpg. 
Checking some Fiat G-50. 
the BD-601 powered Reggiane Re-2001 Ariete.  | |
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04-16-2005, 12:06 AM
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Country:  | While it seems traditional to slag off Italian military prowess, it shouldnt be forgotten that the Italians produced what were basically potent airframes let down by poor armament and poor powerplants. I firmly believe that if Italy had stayed in the war on the Axis side, they would have been able to solve those problems. They were already producing fighters with German engines, swap 2x 12.7mm MGs for 2x MG131s and 2x MG/FFs and you've got a powerful fighter which would be a real handful for the allies. Added to the German aircraft already present in the MTO, the RA could have posed a real menace to allied airpower.
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04-17-2005, 01:44 AM
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Country:  | Hi guys I thought I would add a few photo's of a Fiat G59-b i took at Caboolture airshow a few years ago. Such a beautiful machine. Hope you like!  | |
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04-17-2005, 06:27 AM
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Country:  | Wildcat; CB; great pics! 
BombTaxi, I agree with what youre saying here are the stats to the Reggiane Re-2005 from 1943. This would mix it with anything the allies could offer. Quote:
Engine:
One 1,475 hp Daimler-Benz DB 605A-1 V-12 inline liquid-cooled piston.
Dimensions: Span: 36 ft 1 in / 11 m.
Length: 28 ft 7 3/4 in / 8.73 m.
Height: 10 ft 4 in / 3.15 m.
Wing area: 219.58 sq ft / 20.4 m2.
Weights: Empty: 5,732 lb / 2,600 kg.
Maximum: 7,960 lb / 3,610 kg.
Max speed:
6,560 ft / 2,000 m: 421 mph / 678 kph
13,120 ft / 4,000 m: 351 mph / 565 kph
22,800 ft / 6,950 m: 421 mph / 678 kph
22,965 ft / 7,000 m: 421 mph / 678 kph
Cruise speed: 320 mph / 515 kph
Climb rate: Time to 6,560 ft / 2,000 m: 1 min 55 sec
13,120 ft / 4,000 m: 4 min 28 sec
19,685 ft / 6,000 m: 5 min
Service ceiling: 37,730 ft / 11,500 m
Range: 609 miles / 980 km.
Crew: one
Armament:
Two 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns with 350 rounds each in upper engine cowling.
One 20 mm Mauser MG 151 cannon with 150 rounds firing through propellor hub.
Two 20 mm Mauser MG 151 cannon with 200 rounds each in wings.
Up to 2,200 lb / 1,000 kg bomb or fuel tank under fuselage.
Two wing hardpoints for 353 lb / 160 kg of bombs or fuel tanks.
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04-19-2005, 09:02 PM
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Country: | Check this MC-202 folgore with an experimental radiator, pretty close to P-40... isn t?  | |
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04-20-2005, 01:21 PM
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#97 | | Master of Ewes
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04-26-2005, 11:51 PM
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04-27-2005, 05:20 AM
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Country:  | Does anyone have pics/info on Italian bombers, I don't know much about them...  To be honest I never heard of any bombing missions Italy performed, I was surprised when I read they bombed Britian if only once.
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04-27-2005, 08:51 AM
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Country: | They had the CANT.1007, SM.79 and I can't remember the other one.
Oh, and the Piaggio.108
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04-27-2005, 09:35 AM
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SM-79 
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The squadron "Falchi delle Baleari" (Hawks of Baleares) over the Tarragona harbour, Spain 1938. 
SM-82. 
Piaggio P-108.  | |
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04-27-2005, 10:37 AM
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| That bottom four engine plane is pretty big. How did it compare with allied foiur engine jobs? | |
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04-27-2005, 11:05 AM
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#103 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | wow great pics........
and that four engined plane at the bottom is a Piaggio P.108, the only 4 engined bomber to see Italian service, although only in VERY few numbers, and whilst CC will not agree with me, it did not stand up well against the allied 4 engined heavies...........
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04-27-2005, 01:15 PM
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| How so? How did it compare with the B-17 for instance? How about the British heavies? | |
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04-27-2005, 01:20 PM
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#105 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | well on paper it would appear to be better than a B-17, but so was the Skua, and the british heavies beat the P.108 hands down, however no one knows much about it's construction for example, so we can't really tell what she was like in combat...............
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