Aircraft Identification V

[Waynos]

This one is a bit different, its a sort of WW2 UCAV pictured with its bomb, but what is it?




Also, I know this is outside the scope of the thread, but isn't this strangely cute?

[Graeme]

Hi Wayne!

I enjoy your mock-up images. Where do they all come from?

Found this the other day...

That's General Eisenhower hunkered down in an aircraft, just before a flight. The date is June 4 1944. The flight took him on a "fast" tour of the Normandy beaches.

What's the aircraft?



(Something I didn't know was that Eisenhower and Patton were both licensed private pilots).

Edit: Whoops, just saw your post above-will need to look into that one further!

[wingnuts]

That CA23 model and others, including the CA15 model, was still in existence in the late 90s when the CAC buildings, then owned by Hawker de Havilland were closed down. Most of the historical artifacts and records were donated to the Moorabbin Air Museum.

Australian National Aviation Museum - Moorabbin Air Museum

[Graeme]

Originally Posted by Waynos

but what is it?

Can't find any photos on the internet, but how about the Miles Hoop-la...?

[1.0] The Aerial Torpedo

"Miles Aircraft of the UK proposed an aerial torpedo they called the "Hoop-la", and constructed a mockup. The Hoop-la was a neat little high-wing aircraft built around a 450 kilogram (1,000 pound) bomb, featuring a Gipsy Major air-cooled four-cylinder inline engine, a wingspan of 4.3 meters (14 feet), and an estimated speed of over 480 KPH (300 MPH)."

(Thanks for the CA-23 update, Wingnut)

[Waynos]

Yes thats it, the Miles hoop la, the picture is the only one I've ever seen and it is from a postwar issue of Flight magazine which I inherited in a binder, my pictures are all from random sources, but 90% are scans from books or magazines, my 'office' looks like a paper warehouse

Working on the Ike picture, I've an inkling its an observation type likr a Stinson or a Taylorcraft but I'm not sure

[GaryMcL]

With the metal fuselage, side-hinged canopy and "fast" clue I'd go for a modified P-51B (or A-36).

[Graeme]

Originally Posted by GaryMcL

With the metal fuselage, side-hinged canopy and "fast" clue I'd go for a modified P-51B (or A-36).

Nicely done Gary! Ike is sitting in a modified P-51B. The accommodation was made available by removing the 85 gallon fuselage tank from behind the pilot. The article mentions that General Marshall tore strips off him for making the flight.

I expect a quick answer Wayne...

[Krabat42]

The Hawker P.1052. Would have been the right plane for Korea.

Krabat

[Waynos]

It would have been quick, if I had been looking. One of my all time faves, but then it is a Hawker.
I'm just reloading my images onto a brand new pp which is driving me nuts (Vista, HA!!) and I had forgotten all about a load of them shoved onto a 10 year old hard drive and then forgotten, these might be interesting to look at, first one;

[magnocain]

In Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Indiana it attacked by 2 German fighters.


What are they? They look like early bf109's, but not really. Are they just made-up generic fighters? I also posted this in the Movie Aircraft thread.

[kool kitty89]

That canopy design doesn't look like a fighter at all (maybe some lightweight fighter based on a trainer a/c), and the engine apears to be an air cooled inverted inline (Argus or Hirth) possibly a real a/c (or close to one) but not a fighter.

That canopy design isn't familiar though.

Here's a good reasourse LuftArchiv.de - Das Archiv der Deutschen Luftwaffe

I'll check a bit. (I beieve several bogus planes were used on the other Indiana Jones movies as well, so it wouldn't be surprising, but most of those resembled real a/c as well iirc)

Somewhat reminisant of the Ar 96 Arado Ar 96

[Waynos]

I had an inkling that it was a Swiss trainer, then I found it, the Pilatus P-2, it only seems to have been altered by having fake 'DB601' type exhaust stubs stuck on the cowling.

[kool kitty89]

I think I found it, not a German a/c at all, though some used German engines (Argus As 410) and some design components from German a/c. (Bf 109's landing gear)

Pilatus P-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kool kitty89]

Oh, you got it already Waynos...

Photos: Pilatus P2 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net


Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) - mistakes, nitpicks, trivia, locations

[Graeme]

Originally Posted by Waynos

first one;

Home for lunch, gotta be quick, no googling...the Bede 10 HOMEBUILT Supersonic jet that crashed and no more was heard?