Aircraft Identification V - Page 141 - Aircraft of World War II

Kruska · 06-18-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patoruzu

So it was very easy - its the mockup of a twin engined P40 (only photograf I know) never built. Well Done Waynos

Hello mates,

Since I follow up on this thread already for a long time (still waiting to get lucky

) I do know that you guys are very, very knowledgeable.

The only Curtiss designation that I know of as P-40 is the P-40 Warhawk, kittyhawk, Tomahawk, so I find it very strange that a totally different aircraft from the same company uses the same designation P-40.

Regards
Kruska

kool kitty89 · 06-18-2008, 04:32 PM

See: Curtiss P-40C twin-engine Curtiss L-Z

Quote:

One pulled from ex-service condemned units and modified into a twin mock-up for preliminary evaluation; engines were not installed [41-13456].

Kruska · 06-18-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kool kitty89

See: Curtiss P-40C twin-engine Curtiss L-Z

Thanks for the link.

Regards
Kruska

Graeme · 06-18-2008, 09:34 PM

Well done with 'Lorna'.

Next one. Designed as a "trainer-fighter", but by the time WWII arrived, it was considered a pilots "toy"...

Patoruzu · 06-19-2008, 11:01 AM

It looks like an Irbitis project of VEF- but I guess thats must be older

Waynos · 06-19-2008, 12:46 PM

Wow, that was a complete guess. I must be cleverer than I thought

I haven't forgotten the turret fighter I posted, I've just lost the book its from and can't remember the exact identity, but it is a Bristol.

Grampa · 06-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Sparrmannjagaren

Graeme · 06-20-2008, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grampa

Sparrmannjagaren

Correct. Well done! Did it help being Swedish Grampa?

According to the article I got the front view drawing from, it mentions that Sparmann designed a "bent-wing fighter that looked like the forerunner of the F4U Corsair", somewhere around 1936. Do you have any further information on this design Grampa?

Next..a biplane fighter...

kool kitty89 · 06-20-2008, 05:05 AM

Looks like a Gladiator, but there's no wing guns, and the canopy seems a bit large. (the 3-blade prop is also an interesting note, used on the Mk.II, but it looks different) The canopy and prop are wrong for the Gauntlet...
And the tailplane's too high.

Emilio Lafuente · 06-20-2008, 06:54 AM

The biplane fighter looks to me like a Koolhoven FK.52, but I´m not sure...

Emilio Lafuente · 06-20-2008, 06:58 AM

Take a look in this link:
KOOLHOVEN FK.52

Patoruzu · 06-20-2008, 07:03 AM

It is a FK52 - Well done Emilio

Anyone know that? - (GRAEME style)

Grampa · 06-20-2008, 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=Graeme;365965]Correct. Well done! Did it help being Swedish Grampa?

According to the article I got the front view drawing from, it mentions that Sparmann designed a "bent-wing fighter that looked like the forerunner of the F4U Corsair", somewhere around 1936. Do you have any further information on this design Grampa?

Well what I know of this type is that this plane whas designed by Edmund Sparmann(1) after a request from Flygvapnet of a cheap plane whit an performance like a fighter and inbuild guncamera. The idea of this plane whas to save some money when training pilots in advance aircombat whitout the need of using the advance highcost fighter. P1 whas manufactured in Lilla Essinge in Stockholm, 11 planes whas build. The first 3 of them where sent to F5 in Ljungbyhed and in the time 1945 when there whas only 3 of them left they where sent to F1 in Västerås and F13 in Norrköping and they where scrapped januari 1947 ecxept for one that been preserved for the Flygvapenmuseum in Malmen I Malmslätt. In 1937 the company whas sold to SAAB AB. Later version where equipment whit a hood over the cocpit and some in the late time where painted in camoflagegreen. A interesting thing here is that in 25 augusti 1935 after a serious interest to create a flightmovie called Ungdom av idag (young days) written by Per-Axel Branner and produced by svenska Paramount AB, a part of the movie at that day whas made over the new builded Jönköpings/Rocksjö airfield and there whas a Sparmannjagaren P1(2) flown by lt. Fredrik Lambert-Meuller(4). whit it. He whas about to open the new airfield whit the P1 plane and made a elegant and avdanced manouver show for the moviecamera and for the public. But unfortunaly he made an error in altitude when he whas doing an manouver and hit the ground so hard that it looked sertanly have killed Fredrik. Surprisingly he come out of the wreck unharmed except some bruses, but the P1 whas turned in to kaffeved (coffewood). thx to this accident the movie whas then show whit a headline written "serious comedi", "all fake nonmake" and "all flight whas made of swedish officers". The movie whas showed in Hollywood and the mainplayer Kotti Chave(3) in the movie got some interest from Hollywood.

(1)Edmund Sparmann - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin
(2)Lae - inte bara en stad på Nya Guinea -
(2)P 1 - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin
(3)Kotti Chave - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin
(4)Wapedia - Wiki: Fredrik Lambert-Meuller
P1 Sparmannjagaren

white210 · 06-20-2008, 04:41 PM

I am trying to find the name of an experimental failed stol prototype from ww2 which had oversized props mounted at the end of each wing. Props rotated so that airflow was forced under wings by the props. Help please.

white210 · 06-20-2008, 04:55 PM

nevermind found it. was the Vought V-173

06-18-2008, 09:34 PM	#2104
Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,082	Well done with 'Lorna'. Next one. Designed as a "trainer-fighter", but by the time WWII arrived, it was considered a pilots "toy"... Last edited by Graeme; 06-19-2008 at 04:23 AM. Reason: added photo

06-19-2008, 03:34 PM	#2107
Grampa Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 216	Sparrmann S 1-A, Sparrmannjagaren Sparrmannjagaren

06-20-2008, 05:05 AM	#2109
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	Looks like a Gladiator, but there's no wing guns, and the canopy seems a bit large. (the 3-blade prop is also an interesting note, used on the Mk.II, but it looks different) The canopy and prop are wrong for the Gauntlet... And the tailplane's too high. Last edited by kool kitty89; 06-20-2008 at 05:17 AM.

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06-19-2008, 11:01 AM	#2105
Patoruzu Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 98	It looks like an Irbitis project of VEF- but I guess thats must be older

06-19-2008, 12:46 PM	#2106
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,128	Wow, that was a complete guess. I must be cleverer than I thought I haven't forgotten the turret fighter I posted, I've just lost the book its from and can't remember the exact identity, but it is a Bristol.

06-20-2008, 06:54 AM	#2110
Emilio Lafuente Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Logroño, Spain Posts: 96	The biplane fighter looks to me like a Koolhoven FK.52, but I´m not sure...

06-20-2008, 06:58 AM	#2111
Emilio Lafuente Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Logroño, Spain Posts: 96	Take a look in this link: KOOLHOVEN FK.52

06-20-2008, 11:44 AM	#2113
Grampa Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 216	[QUOTE=Graeme;365965]Correct. Well done! Did it help being Swedish Grampa? According to the article I got the front view drawing from, it mentions that Sparmann designed a "bent-wing fighter that looked like the forerunner of the F4U Corsair", somewhere around 1936. Do you have any further information on this design Grampa? Well what I know of this type is that this plane whas designed by Edmund Sparmann(1) after a request from Flygvapnet of a cheap plane whit an performance like a fighter and inbuild guncamera. The idea of this plane whas to save some money when training pilots in advance aircombat whitout the need of using the advance highcost fighter. P1 whas manufactured in Lilla Essinge in Stockholm, 11 planes whas build. The first 3 of them where sent to F5 in Ljungbyhed and in the time 1945 when there whas only 3 of them left they where sent to F1 in Västerås and F13 in Norrköping and they where scrapped januari 1947 ecxept for one that been preserved for the Flygvapenmuseum in Malmen I Malmslätt. In 1937 the company whas sold to SAAB AB. Later version where equipment whit a hood over the cocpit and some in the late time where painted in camoflagegreen. A interesting thing here is that in 25 augusti 1935 after a serious interest to create a flightmovie called Ungdom av idag (young days) written by Per-Axel Branner and produced by svenska Paramount AB, a part of the movie at that day whas made over the new builded Jönköpings/Rocksjö airfield and there whas a Sparmannjagaren P1(2) flown by lt. Fredrik Lambert-Meuller(4). whit it. He whas about to open the new airfield whit the P1 plane and made a elegant and avdanced manouver show for the moviecamera and for the public. But unfortunaly he made an error in altitude when he whas doing an manouver and hit the ground so hard that it looked sertanly have killed Fredrik. Surprisingly he come out of the wreck unharmed except some bruses, but the P1 whas turned in to kaffeved (coffewood). thx to this accident the movie whas then show whit a headline written "serious comedi", "all fake nonmake" and "all flight whas made of swedish officers". The movie whas showed in Hollywood and the mainplayer Kotti Chave(3) in the movie got some interest from Hollywood. (1)Edmund Sparmann - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin (2)Lae - inte bara en stad på Nya Guinea - (2)P 1 - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin (3)Kotti Chave - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin (4)Wapedia - Wiki: Fredrik Lambert-Meuller P1 Sparmannjagaren

06-20-2008, 04:41 PM	#2114
white210 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	I am trying to find the name of an experimental failed stol prototype from ww2 which had oversized props mounted at the end of each wing. Props rotated so that airflow was forced under wings by the props. Help please.

06-20-2008, 04:55 PM	#2115
white210 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	nevermind found it. was the Vought V-173