Aircraft Identification V - Page 168 - Aircraft of World War II

Waynos · 10-22-2008, 10:52 AM

You know Graeme, after the small scale one earlier I was waiting for this one to turn up, I even considered it myself

Waynos · 10-22-2008, 08:00 PM

Heres one to have a go at;

kool kitty89 · 10-22-2008, 08:47 PM

It looks kind of like an F-86. (especially the canopy) Hmm...

wingnuts · 10-22-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waynos

Heres one to have a go at;

Where?... can't see anything!

Graeme · 10-23-2008, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waynos

Heres one to have a go at

The Supermarine Type 545.

This one only reached the mock-up stage...

Waynos · 10-23-2008, 06:35 AM

Thats the Armstrong Whitworth 168, would-be Buccaneer. I've always been struck by its apparent likeness to the A-6 Intruder in many respects.

Graeme · 10-23-2008, 07:03 AM

Very good Wayne! Obviously you have a lot of knowledge on British Projects, so I was wondering about this one...you probably know about it.

Another Armstrong project (a serious one - despite the "Thunderbirds" look) for a supersonic transport.

According to the article the MoA placed a contract for five solid fuel rockets that were fitted with the "M" wing, in 1960. I'm under the impression that they flew? Do you have any more? Any photos/images? Can't find much on the internet.

Waynos · 10-23-2008, 07:24 AM

I have some three view images, but no photo's I'm aware of. The one you posted is the P.13003, this evolved into the P22001 which was bigger and with a T-tail. AW weren't the only ones to try this comical layout though, there was also the mystriously named Vickers Project X which had fuel tanks where the AW's engines are and its own engines were built into the rear fuselage. It also lacked the 'sonic boom diffuser' nose probe that the AW designs had

Graeme · 10-23-2008, 05:46 PM

Thanks Wayne. Wouldn't mind seeing your 3-view of the "M"-wing rocket.

In the meantime...

kool kitty89 · 10-23-2008, 06:20 PM

Looks a bit like an Ar 96. The wing fence is interesting. (I know it was tested on the Bf 109 prototypes with fences in place of slats) But the 3-bladed prop seems a bit out of place.

The canopy and nose look like an Ar 96 though.

AMCKen · 10-24-2008, 01:56 AM

Almost a Dornier 335 is my guess. Mini prototype? Been lurking for a while, now actually signed up. : )

AMCKen · 10-24-2008, 02:00 AM

Noticed the Avro Lincoln in the background of that Supermarine 545.

Emilio Lafuente · 10-24-2008, 03:16 AM

It looks to me more like a twin fork fighter. The dutch Fokker D.XXIII

Graeme · 10-24-2008, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMCKen

Almost a Dornier 335 is my guess. Mini prototype? Been lurking for a while, now actually signed up. : )

You got the "push-pull" part right

And welcome to the forum!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emilio Lafuente

It looks to me more like a twin fork fighter. The dutch Fokker D.XXIII

Yes, it is Emilio.

kool kitty89 · 10-24-2008, 07:04 AM

The angle makes the boom-wing join look like a fence. I should have noticed the nose wheel.

10-22-2008, 10:52 AM	#2506
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	You know Graeme, after the small scale one earlier I was waiting for this one to turn up, I even considered it myself __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

10-22-2008, 08:00 PM	#2507
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	Heres one to have a go at; __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

10-23-2008, 06:35 AM	#2511
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	Thats the Armstrong Whitworth 168, would-be Buccaneer. I've always been struck by its apparent likeness to the A-6 Intruder in many respects. __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

10-23-2008, 07:24 AM	#2513
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	I have some three view images, but no photo's I'm aware of. The one you posted is the P.13003, this evolved into the P22001 which was bigger and with a T-tail. AW weren't the only ones to try this comical layout though, there was also the mystriously named Vickers Project X which had fuel tanks where the AW's engines are and its own engines were built into the rear fuselage. It also lacked the 'sonic boom diffuser' nose probe that the AW designs had __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

10-23-2008, 05:46 PM	#2514
Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,076	Thanks Wayne. Wouldn't mind seeing your 3-view of the "M"-wing rocket. In the meantime... Last edited by Graeme; 10-24-2008 at 03:22 AM. Reason: 'seeing double'

10-22-2008, 08:47 PM	#2508
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	It looks kind of like an F-86. (especially the canopy) Hmm...

10-23-2008, 07:03 AM	#2512
Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,076	Very good Wayne! Obviously you have a lot of knowledge on British Projects, so I was wondering about this one...you probably know about it. Another Armstrong project (a serious one - despite the "Thunderbirds" look) for a supersonic transport. According to the article the MoA placed a contract for five solid fuel rockets that were fitted with the "M" wing, in 1960. I'm under the impression that they flew? Do you have any more? Any photos/images? Can't find much on the internet.

10-23-2008, 06:20 PM	#2515
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	Looks a bit like an Ar 96. The wing fence is interesting. (I know it was tested on the Bf 109 prototypes with fences in place of slats) But the 3-bladed prop seems a bit out of place. The canopy and nose look like an Ar 96 though. Last edited by kool kitty89; 10-23-2008 at 06:24 PM.

10-24-2008, 01:56 AM	#2516
AMCKen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 106	Almost a Dornier 335 is my guess. Mini prototype? Been lurking for a while, now actually signed up. : )

10-24-2008, 02:00 AM	#2517
AMCKen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 106	Noticed the Avro Lincoln in the background of that Supermarine 545.

10-24-2008, 03:16 AM	#2518
Emilio Lafuente Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Logroño, Spain Posts: 89	It looks to me more like a twin fork fighter. The dutch Fokker D.XXIII

10-24-2008, 07:04 AM	#2520
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	The angle makes the boom-wing join look like a fence. I should have noticed the nose wheel. Last edited by kool kitty89; 10-24-2008 at 07:09 AM.

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