Aircraft Identification V - Page 175 - Aircraft of World War II

runningdog · 12-21-2008, 02:40 PM

Federal Aircraft Factory C-3605 Schlep? Swiss, late 1960's, a target tug to the best of my recollection.

Graeme · 12-21-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Waynos

Ah, thats the swiss EKW C.3603, or something very closely related.

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Originally Posted by runningdog

Federal Aircraft Factory C-3605 Schlep? Swiss, late 1960's, a target tug to the best of my recollection.

Yep...

Federal Aircraft Factory C-3605 Schlepp - target-tug

Tough machine. The article mentions one that ditched in 1974 into Lake Lucerene. Three days in 20ft of water, it was recovered and flying again soon after.

New one. Easy one.

Waynos · 12-21-2008, 06:27 PM

Aah, I will abstain from this one, but I will say, check out the old Jimmy Stewart movie 'No Highway in the Sky' for some very rare movie footage of this very prototype.

kool kitty89 · 12-21-2008, 11:18 PM

I believe that's Gloster's Nene powered E.1/34 "Ace" with the second version of the tail. (later adopted by the Meteor F-8 )

I'm not sure why the Meteor was preferred, the "Ace" should have made an excelent single-seat fighter and possibly fighter-bomber, cleaner, smaller (less expensive), thinner wings, and considerably faster. (the 2-seat radar equipped Meteor would still be preferable in its role) Probably more competitive with the early Swept wing fighters than most other straight winged fighters, and probably all operational ones. (due in part to the thin wing)

Graeme · 12-22-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Waynos

Aah, I will abstain from this one, but I will say, check out the old Jimmy Stewart movie 'No Highway in the Sky' for some very rare movie footage of this very prototype.

I googled this film, but I don't remember it. Sounds good. Did the E.1/44 have a cameo role (RAE) or did it have a "starring" role?

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Originally Posted by kool kitty89

I believe that's Gloster's Nene powered E.1/34 "Ace" with the second version of the tail. (later adopted by the Meteor F-8)

Yep. Two tails were trialled...

Waynos · 12-22-2008, 06:38 PM

A cameo role, but including a very nice close up! It was strange how the story presaged the real life story of the Comet just a few years later with a new airliner that had a fatal flaw through susceptibility metal fatigue. If only there really was a Farnborough boffin that had figured it out and was prepared to board G-ALYP and retract the undercart while it was still on the tarmac to stop it flying! Classic movie!.

Red Feniks · 12-27-2008, 05:41 AM

Here's a new one,
you guys know what this plane once was?
Don't let it fool you, look twice

Airframes · 12-27-2008, 06:28 AM

Well the one in the foreground appears to be the hulk of a Brewster Buffalo, but I can't make out the rectangular sectioned centre section and wing of the one behind.

briyeo · 12-29-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Airframes

Well the one in the foreground appears to be the hulk of a Brewster Buffalo, but I can't make out the rectangular sectioned centre section and wing of the one behind.

Having just come across the exact same image online "Airframes" would appear to be correct, the caption reads
Belgian Brewster Buffalo wreckage at Darmstadt during the war. Maybe one of the 3 B-339's recieved out of the 40 ordered?
So did you mean the wreck in the background?

BTW Good to see this thread is still running, my son started this going way back in 2004, he's an old man now

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/old...ead-i-484.html (Aircraft Identification Thread I)

Airframes · 12-29-2008, 12:24 PM

Thanks briyeo. BTW, I'm just across the border from you, in Cheshire.

Graeme · 01-01-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Airframes

Well the one in the foreground appears to be the hulk of a Brewster Buffalo

Totally agree Terry.

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Originally Posted by briyeo

BTW Good to see this thread is still running, my son started this going way back in 2004, he's an old man now

I'm glad he started this thread.

New one for 2009. If you can identify the gun, you should find the aircraft concerned...

Hesekiel · 01-01-2009, 07:55 AM

What a terrible thing

At the first look on the magazine it looks like an bofors AA Gun....

Captain Dunsel · 01-01-2009, 08:38 AM

Looks like a Coventry Ordinance Works gun. Now, where'd they mount a COW?

Waynos · 01-01-2009, 08:57 AM

Yeah, it does look like a COW, I've only seen such a gun on a couple of prototype fighters, but might it have been fitted to a Handley Page Hyderabad? Or a Vickers Virginia?

briyeo · 01-01-2009, 09:08 AM

If it is the COW gun it seems the aircraft could be a Westland Westbury from 1926

But they seem to have tried one fitted to the Bristol Bagshot as well, but from what I read it didnt fly too well, serious structual problems. So it has to be the Westland Westbury

12-21-2008, 06:27 PM	#2613
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	Aah, I will abstain from this one, but I will say, check out the old Jimmy Stewart movie 'No Highway in the Sky' for some very rare movie footage of this very prototype. __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

12-21-2008, 11:18 PM	#2614
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	I believe that's Gloster's Nene powered E.1/34 "Ace" with the second version of the tail. (later adopted by the Meteor F-8 ) I'm not sure why the Meteor was preferred, the "Ace" should have made an excelent single-seat fighter and possibly fighter-bomber, cleaner, smaller (less expensive), thinner wings, and considerably faster. (the 2-seat radar equipped Meteor would still be preferable in its role) Probably more competitive with the early Swept wing fighters than most other straight winged fighters, and probably all operational ones. (due in part to the thin wing) Last edited by kool kitty89; 12-21-2008 at 11:28 PM.

12-22-2008, 06:38 PM	#2616
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	A cameo role, but including a very nice close up! It was strange how the story presaged the real life story of the Comet just a few years later with a new airliner that had a fatal flaw through susceptibility metal fatigue. If only there really was a Farnborough boffin that had figured it out and was prepared to board G-ALYP and retract the undercart while it was still on the tarmac to stop it flying! Classic movie!. __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

01-01-2009, 07:55 AM	#2622
Hesekiel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 238	What a terrible thing At the first look on the magazine it looks like an bofors AA Gun.... __________________ Der Tank ist leer der Motor kotzt, jetzt wird die Mühle hingerotzt.....

01-01-2009, 08:57 AM	#2624
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	Yeah, it does look like a COW, I've only seen such a gun on a couple of prototype fighters, but might it have been fitted to a Handley Page Hyderabad? Or a Vickers Virginia? __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat

12-21-2008, 02:40 PM	#2611
runningdog Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: East Dorset, South of England not Vermont. Posts: 59	Federal Aircraft Factory C-3605 Schlep? Swiss, late 1960's, a target tug to the best of my recollection.

12-27-2008, 06:28 AM	#2618
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,748	Well the one in the foreground appears to be the hulk of a Brewster Buffalo, but I can't make out the rectangular sectioned centre section and wing of the one behind.

12-29-2008, 12:24 PM	#2620
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,748	Thanks briyeo. BTW, I'm just across the border from you, in Cheshire.

01-01-2009, 08:38 AM	#2623
Captain Dunsel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Near McGuire AFB, NJ Posts: 165	Looks like a Coventry Ordinance Works gun. Now, where'd they mount a COW?

01-01-2009, 09:08 AM	#2625
briyeo Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Derbyshire - UK Posts: 6	If it is the COW gun it seems the aircraft could be a Westland Westbury from 1926 But they seem to have tried one fitted to the Bristol Bagshot as well, but from what I read it didnt fly too well, serious structual problems. So it has to be the Westland Westbury Last edited by briyeo; 01-01-2009 at 09:17 AM.

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