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Old 06-03-2009, 08:57 AM   #3256
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[QUOTE=Graeme;507815]I suspect so Marcogrifo. Possibly the PZL 30 prototype. Note that in Flyboy 2's photo that the main undercarriage retracts into the fuselage side and not the nacelles. The fin and extreme nose also differ to the design when LWS too control.

GRAEME I guess the PZL 30 as it was an cvil airliner have an fixed Undercarriage - Was designed by a team led by Eng. Zbysław Ciołkosz
It was refused and LOT buy some american douglass DC2 - Then the aircraft was converted in a (1200kg bombs) bomber - Also the engines was changed from Wasp juniors to Bristol Pegasus VIII so the naceles an the fuselage was changed Pzl30BII

In 1936 the contract on construction of 16 bombers for the Polnish Army was received by firm LWS (Lubelska Wytwórnia Samolotów). They received the designation LWS-6.
The LWS-6 was called Zubr (Bison).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWS-6_%C5%BBubr

After the capitulation some were used by the german in the flying schools and 4 were used in multiple tasks by the russian.

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Old 06-03-2009, 12:50 PM   #3257
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Sorry, believe me, I wasn't blaming anyone for this apart from myself for the first


Sorry again, I don't know any special search engine , but try googling "aircraft YR-AHA" or "aircraft D-ORBE"



Hmm, an usual "french-multi-engine-high-wing-fixed-gear-ugly-plane" built in the period between WWI and WWII, maybe?
Hi again Marcogrifo
I don't mean to confuse you but I just started a small thread called "aircrafts in push/pull configuration". This is just a very humble start but I'm sure, with the help of you gentlemen, that it will grow up to a respectable size.
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:16 PM   #3258
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Good evening gentlemen,
if nobody wants to put forth a challenge over a flying wing, well I'll be the one (easy)
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:16 PM   #3259
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Carson, can you provide a link for your thread aircrafts in push/pull configuration as I cannot find it and I have a picture foryou that you might not have seen before.

Your flying wing reminds me of an early Lippisch test plane but I'm not finding it so easy as you might think
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Carson, can you provide a link for your thread aircrafts in push/pull configuration as I cannot find it and I have a picture foryou that you might not have seen before.
Look here: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/air...ion-18906.html (aircrafts in "push/pull" configuration)

Nice idea Carson, I'll try to add something in the next days

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Old 06-03-2009, 08:33 PM   #3261
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GRAEME I guess the PZL 30 as it was an cvil airliner have an fixed Undercarriage
G'day Patoruzu! I've read (happy to be corrected) that the PZL.30 airliner never flew as such, because as you said, LOT had no interest in it and therefore it was completed as a "combat proficiency trainer" which flew in March 1936. This formed the basis for the production PZL.30A Zubr. Possibly either one had the fixed undercarriage? However I can find no mention of it in books. Poor drawings but the PZL.30/BI definitely had a side fuselage wheel well as opposed to the LWS nacelle retracting undercarriage...


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Thanks Waynos and thanks Marcogrifo I would really appreciate new denominations for my "push/pull" list which I have recently started.
On the other hand I'm happy to announce that my list of "contrarotating props" is going very well with new additions trickling in.
I'll soon update it
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Carson, can you provide a link for your thread aircrafts in push/pull configuration as I cannot find it and I have a picture foryou that you might not have seen before.

Your flying wing reminds me of an early Lippisch test plane but I'm not finding it so easy as you might think
I'll give you a clue concerning the flying wing: it isn't german and it was a one-off model of the middle thirties.....
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Great GRAEME Also happy to be corrected. Thanks a lot -
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G'day Patoruzu! I've read (happy to be corrected) that the PZL.30 airliner never flew as such, because as you said, LOT had no interest in it and therefore it was completed as a "combat proficiency trainer" which flew in March 1936. This formed the basis for the production PZL.30A Zubr. Possibly either one had the fixed undercarriage? However I can find no mention of it in books. Poor drawings but the PZL.30/BI definitely had a side fuselage wheel well as opposed to the LWS nacelle retracting undercarriage...


Looks the the upper drawing, 'port side view' shows the inward retracting gear and the lower starboard shows a rearward gear. ?
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Hello gentlemen,

Help required: does the attached image represent a Curtiss-Wright BT/32 "condor"?
There are conflicting views over the identification with a friend of mine.
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Looks the the upper drawing, 'port side view' shows the inward retracting gear and the lower starboard shows a rearward gear. ?
Morning ACMKen
There two different airplanes - Upper the PZL 30-BI and below PZL 30-BII- Note that the nacelles are also different.
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I'll give you a clue concerning the flying wing: it isn't german and it was a one-off model of the middle thirties.....
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Since there are no takers yet for this flying wing and valuable space should be made for other , more interesting and enthralling challenges, I'll inform you that it is the Nieuport-Delage NID/941 of 1935 (only one prototype was built).
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OK, guess this:



P.S.: I decided in this case I do not hide the code on fuselage because it shoudn't help so much in guessing the plane (but someone can always contradict me... )

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