Aircraft Identification V - Page 226 - Aircraft of World War II

Graeme · 06-28-2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcogrifo

OK, guess this little bird:

Hate seeing images getting bypassed/ignored Marcogrifo so maybe mores clues or just reveal the identity? But as Wayne pointed out it certainly seems to be based on the Fokker?

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Originally Posted by vikingBerserker

Ok, I'll take another crack at it.

It's the Blackburn A.D. Scout. Nice images. Where do you source them from?

carson1934 · 06-28-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Hate seeing images getting bypassed/ignored Marcogrifo so maybe mores clues or just reveal the identity? But as Wayne pointed out it certainly seems to be based on the Fokker?

It's the Blackburn A.D. Scout. Nice images. Where do you source them from?

Hi Graeme,
I agree with you hundred percent concerning bypassed images.
Actually I reckon there were no takers for your post #3339 of 6-26 (only Marcogrifo implied it could be a Tachikawa but no confirmation or clues).
Actually we should not accept further images till all old ones are identificed. That's what other forums do!
BTW would you give us a clue or two about above mentioned post?
carson1934

vikingBerserker · 06-28-2009, 10:31 AM

Oops I apoligize, I thought it had already been ID'd.

You are correct Graeme! No particular source, this particular one I got from The World's Worst Aircraft by Jim Winchester.

carson1934 · 06-28-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tzaw1

It seems, that is a small difference.
The nacelle below the fuselage is smaller and right at "232" (at foto left).
But at "451" the nacelle has central postion and is a bit greater.
And wingtips are cutted, it seems.

EDIT

From Zlatko Rendulić "Avioni domaće konstrukcije posle drugog svetskog rata" (Home constructed aircrafts after 2 WW")

Thanks Tzaw1 for the rare and detailed pics of Ikarus 232...also for the pics of the various Ikarus 451 (which I already have since some time in my files)...however I wonder why on earth were different models all designated 451's?
carson1934

Tzaw1 · 06-28-2009, 10:51 AM

Ask Darwin

Theoretically this is the evolution: re-building basically the same construction.

vikingBerserker · 06-28-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcogrifo

OK, guess this little bird:

cheers

It has to be some type of Fokker, or based on a Fokker.

Marcogrifo · 06-28-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikingBerserker

It has to be some type of Fokker, or based on a Fokker.

Sorry, not at all

OK, gents, time for some hint:
The little company that built this little bird was american, precisely it was based in NY state. They built and offered to US Army trainers; they had something to do with Keystone.
Guessed?
Still not?

Cheers

imalko · 06-28-2009, 01:12 PM

As promised here is the picture of Ikarus B-5, the first Yugoslav experimental airplane with pilot in prone position. This aircraft was designed by Dragoljub Bešlin and build in only one example, as prototype for proposed dive bomber, in 1940. After occupation of Yugoslavia in April 1941 this airplane (apparently damaged) was captured by the Germans and its further fate remains unknown.

Translation of the Cyrillic text on the picture:
"Assembly hangar of "Ikarus" before the out brake of World War Two. Ikarus B-5, prototype of indigenous experimental twin-engined light aircraft with pilot in prone position, accompanied with other planes produced in this Airplane factory, IK-2 and Blenheim."

Source: "Naša krila" issue No 15 from September 1997, Photo © Šime Oštrić Collection

lingo · 06-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcogrifo

Sorry, not at all

OK, gents, time for some hint:
The little company that built this little bird was american, precisely it was based in NY state. They built and offered to US Army trainers; they had something to do with Keystone.
Guessed?
Still not?

Cheers

Fleet, later Consolidated?

carson1934 · 06-28-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imalko

As promised here is the picture of Ikarus B-5, the first Yugoslav experimental airplane with pilot in prone position. This aircraft was designed by Dragoljub Bešlin and build in only one example, as prototype for proposed dive bomber, in 1940. After occupation of Yugoslavia in April 1941 this airplane (apparently damaged) was captured by the Germans and its further fate remains unknown.

Translation of the Cyrillic text on the picture:
"Assembly hangar of "Ikarus" before the out brake of World War Two. Ikarus B-5, prototype of indigenous experimental twin-engined light aircraft with pilot in prone position, accompanied with other planes produced in this Airplane factory, IK-2 and Blenheim."

Source: "Naša krila" issue No 15 from September 1997, Photo © Šime Oštrić Collection

Thanks again Imalko for the very interesting and rare picture and above all for taking the time to scan and send this document. I think all concerned have appreciated it
carson1934

Graeme · 06-28-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carson1934

BTW would you give us a clue or two about above mentioned post?

See post #3345 Carson.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcogrifo

The little company that built this little bird was american, precisely it was based in NY state. They built and offered to US Army trainers; they had something to do with Keystone.

The Huff-Daland AT-1.

vikingBerserker · 06-29-2009, 12:07 AM

That was excellent, and nicely done Graeme!

Marcogrifo · 06-29-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme

The Huff-Daland AT-1.

Yes!

Here some info: http://aerofiles.com/_huff.html

Cheers

carson1934 · 06-29-2009, 04:45 AM

What about this funny "zinc" (as they say in France)?
carson1934

lingo · 06-29-2009, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by carson1934

What about this funny "zinc" (as they say in France)?
carson1934

The Airspeed AS4 Ferry.

06-28-2009, 10:31 AM	#3378
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,722	Oops I apoligize, I thought it had already been ID'd. You are correct Graeme! No particular source, this particular one I got from The World's Worst Aircraft by Jim Winchester. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

06-29-2009, 12:07 AM	#3387
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,722	That was excellent, and nicely done Graeme! __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

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