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Old 11-08-2006, 04:37 AM   #751
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Here's one...
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:59 AM   #752
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Hmm got me beat on that one. I wanna say some kind of racing aircraft built by Lockheed or Hughes.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:04 PM   #753
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You're close - I'll give a hint. It is a racer and proposed military plane.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:20 PM   #754
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The Hughes H-1? But it wasn't proposed for military, wasn't it?
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:26 PM   #755
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The Hughes H-1? But it wasn't proposed for military, wasn't it?
Nope...
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I dont know got me beat on this one.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:11 PM   #757
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I'll see if we have any other takers - this one and its designer have an interesting history....
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It's at Patterson, right?, but is it a Wedell-Williams? The pix I remember of those planes had the wheels in the undercarriage enclosed, but this one has open wheels...
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How about Roscoe Turner
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It's at Patterson, right?, but is it a Wedell-Williams? The pix I remember of those planes had the wheels in the undercarriage enclosed, but this one has open wheels...
Close enough! It is a Wedell-Williams - XP-34. He was trying to sell a retractable version of his racer to the US Army Air Corps.

Here's a bio about Jame Wedell

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BTW - that's him in the white coveralls...
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It's an interesting pic, so far I've only seen line drawings of it, and i discarded it as the correct answer because I thought the tail fin on the drawing was "taller" than this one appears to be, and I also thought it hadn't left the drawing board.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:53 AM   #763
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That was my reasoning as well... the XP-34, according to every source I've come across, was never built.

What's the source of this image, J?


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Actually the XP-34 would of been the same aircraft depicted there. Wedell never delivered the drawings requested by the Air Corps...
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here's another shot of that hangar
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:02 PM   #765
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It's a Wedell-Williams racer... but which one? Could it be a modified Model 45? All photos I've seen of that type show a different cowling... and the main gear looks somewhat different as well.

So, again, I ask... what's the source of this image? Also, do you have an un-altered version of this image? I'd like to see what's written on the hangar.


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It is a model 45, and I think there were 2 built and both were altered during their final construction and development, here the original photo, I altered the writing on the hangar to avoid "hints."



Link: Wedell-Williams XP-34

"In 1934 Wedell-Williams won the design competition to build a prototype of the next-generation fighter plane for the army. Dubbed the XP-34, it was a direct descendant of the "45," except that it was larger and designed for two machine guns. The project had progressed to the point of final wind tunnel drawings at the time of Jimmie Wedell’s death. The project slowly withered and died after this tragedy, a combination of Harry Williams’s apathy and the reluctance of the army to proceed without the plane’s main designer."

I believe that aircraft was being tweaked by Wedell for the XP-34 program and was basically becoming a prototype which was cancelled shortly after, that's why the difference in the cowl and landing gear. Wedell's death didn't help matters either...
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