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10-18-2007, 09:10 AM
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| This is Bolkhovitinov S in 1940.
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10-18-2007, 09:47 AM
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| Damn that was quick Wurger! Nice photos. Third from the top, with skis, is the single engine version? Last edited by Graeme; 10-18-2007 at 09:50 AM. |
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10-18-2007, 09:58 AM
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 | Really interesting. I did some research and maximum speed would have been 570 km/h. In fact it's quite similar to the German He 119 but then less effective. Kris
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10-18-2007, 04:17 PM
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I've found other pics of the plane on skis. Source unknown.
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10-18-2007, 04:36 PM
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| OK. What about the bird?
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10-18-2007, 05:10 PM
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| Kalinin K-12 (VS-2) in 'Firebird' livery which appeared in the Tushino show 18 August 1937. |
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10-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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| That was also quick Greame.Point for you. 
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10-18-2007, 05:39 PM
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| Comrade Wurger, another Soviet...  |
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10-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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| Uff....  This is Владислав Константинович Грибовский's aircraft type Gribovski G-23 called Konsomlec in 1936.  On 24-27th July 1937 the plane took part in the sport aircraft race on the Moscow-Sevastopol-Moscow route.This is the aircraft in your pic.In the first cockpit the additional fuel tank was mounted in order to make its time of flight longer up to 8 hours.The cockpit was covered by a duraluminium sheet.Therefore it seems the plane was a single siter.Max speed 140-170 km/h. There is another pic of this plane.The second one is a pic of G-23 bis.
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10-18-2007, 06:44 PM
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10-18-2007, 07:14 PM
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| Indeed.But for me it looks like a miserable joke. Maybe we should try to ID something much more modern. What's this?
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10-18-2007, 09:19 PM
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| Mikoyan Ye-8? (You have a nice collection of photos Wurger-thanks for sharing them) |
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10-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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| Looks like it could also be a Chengdu J-7MF, a Chinese version of the MiG21. I'm only going by description. Edited bit: Just found a pic of the MiG Ye-8... that is a much better fit Last edited by wingnuts; 10-18-2007 at 09:29 PM. Reason: Changed my mind |
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10-18-2007, 10:50 PM
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| Interesting guys! Didn't know that one. Took a look at aviarussia.ee During 1961, the MiG OKB initiated work on an upgraded fighter based on the basic MiG-21PF airframe and referred to contemporaneously as the MiG-23. Assigned the OKB designation Ye-8, it featured a bifurcated ventral air intake for the R-21F engine, which, developed by N Metskhvarishvili, was rated at 4500kg and 7000kg with afterburning. A variable-incidence canard spanning 2.60m was fitted - this having been earlier tested by a Ye-6T - and it was proposed to install Sapfir 21 radar to accompany an armament of two K-13 AAMs. The first of two prototypes, the Ye-8/1, was flown on 17 April 1962, followed on 29 June by the Ye-8/2. On 11 September, the R-21F engine of the Ye-8/1 exploded at Mach=1.7 at 10000m. It was subsequently ascertained that the sixth compressor stage fan had penetrated the engine casing and had then continued on to destroy the starboard aileron. At this time, the Ye-8/2 had effected 13 flights, but the programme was abandoned. Was it the first jet designed with canard wings? Kris
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10-19-2007, 04:46 AM
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| Wow! Now I'm impressed guys, congrats. Yes, the bird is Mikoyan Ye-8/1 also named MiG-23.To make the puzzle harder I've removed the Red Stars from wings and the fin,also its number on fuselage.The a/c should have been equipped with the Fire Control System S-23 but because of problems with the system and troubles with the R21F-300 engine the project was given up.
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