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Old 10-28-2005, 05:45 PM   #76
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i do like the He-162 and perhaps with more capable pilots and better construction it would've worked........
yeah thats just like the Me-163, it was so fast and manouvreable and didnt have the acceleration problems that the ME-262 had, but it killed more of its pilots than it did ours, and the plane had a tendancy to explode if sitting idle for too long.
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It wasnt so much the engine that was the problem, it was the fuel, far too volatile to be practical. I can only imagine what it was like for the few pilots who them airborne, climbing at a ferocious rate, spedding around out manoevering everything, and then just exploding. Quite funny I should think It was a potentially good plane though.
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And it was a good aircraft. It was extremly fast and could climb to the height of Allied bombers in less than a few minutes. But like mentioned, it just had "suicide" spelled on the side of it!
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And it was a good aircraft. It was extremly fast and could climb to the height of Allied bombers in less than a few minutes. But like mentioned, it just had "suicide" spelled on the side of it!
Actually it could climb higher,

The idea was to load the planes up with rockets then they would get as high above the bombers as posible, go into a ferocius dive halfway towards the bombers and let the rockets go, that would cause the formation to break up and the Fw-109's could attack the bombers individually without having to endure consintrated firepower, and to cause mass confusion so the bombs were misdropped.

I dont know if that was tested at all, but I can say that it probably would have worked, and a nice thing for the 163 pilots to know that they dont have to stick around once the rockets were launched
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could attack the bombers individually without having to endure consintrated firepower, and to cause mass confusion so the bombs were misdropped.
Wow. That seemed like a really good plan for the pilots to use! Causing confusion in bombing and then shooting down the bombers. Again, wow!
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How about the P-47M or the P-51H? Those would have been pretty hot ships.
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They were, and this makes me think about what the section is about...

Planes that were potentially good but not used for political reasons or whatever, or planes that were used but didnt see much service due to the wars end?
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i think the name of the thread more implies planes that were in time to see allot of serivce but were stopped from doing so by political reasons etc..........
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Thats what I think...
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because planes towards the wars end were either given the chance to fight for a couple of months at the end of the war or could've seen post war service..........
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Yeah. But here's an exanple of an aircraft that didnt see the service it would've at the end of WWII but saw action in Korea: The P-51 Twin Mustang.

Infact, it was the Twin Mustang that shot down the first north korean aircraft in the korean war!
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The twin Mustang was a P-82, later called the F-82.
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The B-36 Peacemaker. Never got to fly in its intended role as a bomber. The B-109Z- a double varient of the Bf-109 never flew. The He-117 Grief- if they redesigned the engines it could really have worked as a long range bomber!!!
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It wasn't that the B-36 wasn't given a fighting chance, she did she post WWII service but she was too late to see any action in WWII and the inter-continental bombing role wasn't needed by the end of the war, although it was useful in the cold war, and the He-177 was given a fighting chance, but as you said the engines were a problem, she was still given a fighting chance though, that's like the saying the manchester would have been a good plane if they'd put 4 merlins in it, oh, no wait
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The He-277 and -274 werent given a fighting chance - mainly because the He-177 was so bad that the RLM forbid Heinkel to make them
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