Which airplanes weren't given a fighting chance - Aircraft of World War II

MacArther · 10-17-2005, 02:01 PM

This is about airplanes that were hindered for whatever reason by their range, speed, armament, or loadout. Which ones do you think were promising, but never got a chance to prove themselves? This goes for all sides of the conflict. If it is an abstract plane please iclude a picture or diagram (/link).

My personal "not given a chance plane" is the XP-40Q2.

FLYBOYJ · 10-17-2005, 02:12 PM

de Havilland D.H.103 Hornet

Westland Whirlwind

HE 100

If anything the Whirlwind looked very cool - I knew a guy who scratched-built one in 1/32 scale!

Gnomey · 10-17-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by http://hsfeatures.com/hornetf1_1.htm

If ever an airplane could be described as 'sexy', DeHavilland's Hornet certainly would qualify.

She is a beauty!

I haven't got any that I can think off the top of my head, but I will post some when I have got some.

MacArther · 10-17-2005, 02:21 PM

I hear ya, the wirlwind only had the drawback of unreliable engines, which could have been easily fixed. As for the HE 100, I personally like the HE 100D because It could keep up with the latter fighters from the get go of the war.

Gnomey · 10-17-2005, 03:14 PM

HE-112 - good in every respect apart from the fact it what slower than the 109. Several served the in Spanish airforce until the end of the war.

plan_D · 10-17-2005, 03:17 PM

I believe it was six, but I could be wrong. He-112V1 - V6.

helmitsmit · 10-17-2005, 04:21 PM

It is a shame they didn't give the Wirlwind Merlins or Napier Sabres or even Griffon engines. With the handed Griffons it would have done 450mph easily!

wmaxt · 10-17-2005, 04:38 PM

P-38K
Hornet

wmaxt

cheddar cheese · 10-17-2005, 05:15 PM

P-38K, He-100, Whirlwind and Fiat G.56.

plan_D · 10-17-2005, 05:31 PM

The Blackburn Roc. I mean c'mon, they only sent it on one mission. And it had ALL that potential! They didn't give it a fighting chance.

Aggie08 · 10-17-2005, 06:07 PM

The japanese shinden. Also, stretchin it a bit, the b-36. It was supposed to have been finished prior to 1945 but wasn't. It was built to have the capacity to bomb Germany from America.

MacArther · 10-18-2005, 11:29 AM

How about the Chain Lightning, the suposed successor to the P38. If memory serves, it never entered service because it appeared too late.

FLYBOYJ · 10-18-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MacArther

How about the Chain Lightning, the suposed successor to the P38. If memory serves, it never entered service because it appeared too late.

We spoke about this on another thread - it had potential but was a big leaky monster and there wasn't a role for it (bomber destroyer) unless Lockheed could of sold it to the Luftwaffe!

evangilder · 10-18-2005, 12:48 PM

Somehow, I don't think that would have gone over well!

helmitsmit · 10-18-2005, 06:09 PM

What about the supermarine spateful or Seafang. those bloody jets ruined it!

What about the landbased furies with Sabre engine that produced 3000hp! That would have been beautiful! It didn't have that bloody chin of the Typoon tempest, thank god!

10-17-2005, 02:01 PM	#1
MacArther Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 876	Which airplanes weren't given a fighting chance This is about airplanes that were hindered for whatever reason by their range, speed, armament, or loadout. Which ones do you think were promising, but never got a chance to prove themselves? This goes for all sides of the conflict. If it is an abstract plane please iclude a picture or diagram (/link). My personal "not given a chance plane" is the XP-40Q2. __________________ http://www.fictionpress.com/u/478009/ Hillary 2012: The world has to end sometime!

10-17-2005, 02:21 PM	#4
MacArther Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 876	I hear ya, the wirlwind only had the drawback of unreliable engines, which could have been easily fixed. As for the HE 100, I personally like the HE 100D because It could keep up with the latter fighters from the get go of the war. __________________ http://www.fictionpress.com/u/478009/ Hillary 2012: The world has to end sometime!

10-17-2005, 03:14 PM	#5
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	HE-112 - good in every respect apart from the fact it what slower than the 109. Several served the in Spanish airforce until the end of the war. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

10-17-2005, 03:17 PM	#6
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	I believe it was six, but I could be wrong. He-112V1 - V6. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

10-17-2005, 05:31 PM	#10
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	The Blackburn Roc. I mean c'mon, they only sent it on one mission. And it had ALL that potential! They didn't give it a fighting chance. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

10-17-2005, 04:21 PM	#7
helmitsmit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 210	It is a shame they didn't give the Wirlwind Merlins or Napier Sabres or even Griffon engines. With the handed Griffons it would have done 450mph easily!

10-17-2005, 04:38 PM	#8
wmaxt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,175	P-38K Hornet wmaxt

10-17-2005, 05:15 PM	#9
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	P-38K, He-100, Whirlwind and Fiat G.56.

10-17-2005, 06:07 PM	#11
Aggie08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,013	The japanese shinden. Also, stretchin it a bit, the b-36. It was supposed to have been finished prior to 1945 but wasn't. It was built to have the capacity to bomb Germany from America. __________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..." Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group Matt

10-18-2005, 11:29 AM	#12
MacArther Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 876	How about the Chain Lightning, the suposed successor to the P38. If memory serves, it never entered service because it appeared too late. __________________ http://www.fictionpress.com/u/478009/ Hillary 2012: The world has to end sometime!

10-18-2005, 12:48 PM	#14
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Somehow, I don't think that would have gone over well! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

10-18-2005, 06:09 PM	#15
helmitsmit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 210	What about the supermarine spateful or Seafang. those bloody jets ruined it! What about the landbased furies with Sabre engine that produced 3000hp! That would have been beautiful! It didn't have that bloody chin of the Typoon tempest, thank god!

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