 | Allied Silver-Match (Biplanes)| Aviation Discuss Allied Silver-Match (Biplanes) in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by mosquitoman
enclosed cockpit, I don't like the feeling of the wind in my air... |
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04-30-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman enclosed cockpit, I don't like the feeling of the wind in my air | 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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04-30-2005, 04:14 PM
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Country: | I meant hair, surely you've had someone fart in your face before
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04-30-2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman I meant hair, surely you've had someone fart in your face before | No, not that I can remember atleast ! 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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04-30-2005, 04:47 PM
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Country: | I havent. It goes against the geneva convention 
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04-30-2005, 07:34 PM
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| CC, you said, " Ive looked for that pilot account but I cant find it. I belive Kiwimac posted it here a while back. Does anyone else have any paticular accounts of pilots who flew both planes?"
Did you see my last post? Captain Eric Brown flew both and commented on the CR.42. His comments reflect his experience having flown the Gloster Gladiator.
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More from: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/gladiator.htm
The Gloster Gladiator was, as the famous test-pilot Captain Eric M. Brown put it, undoubtedly one of the greatest biplane fighter ever built, but, appearing almost simultaneously with the first of the new breed of heavily armed monoplane fighters and bombers, it was pitched into a combat era where it was outgunned and outperformed, though never outmaneuvered.
Brown also stated that combat between the Fiat CR.42 Falco and the Gladiator would bee a fascinating duel between the two best biplane fighters in the world. The CR.42 had a slight speed advantage, the Gladiator a slight armament advantage. In the matter of maneuverability the aircraft were about equal, and each was lightweight in construction. A combat between them would be decided on the skills of the opposing pilots. The outcome could go either way.
From: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/falco.htm
The famous test-pilot Captain Eric M. Brown, RN, had an opportunity to fly the captured CR.42 MM5701, which was captured after a forced-landing in the later stages of Battle of Britain. He reported that the aircraft was an aerobatic gem. It was remarkably fast for a biplane with a top speed of 270 mph at 12,400 ft and a marginal stability, the hallmark of a good fighter. The CR.42 was a superb biplane that gave an outstanding performance for its type, but as a fighter it was under-gunned. Though highly manoeuvrable, like all aircraft with a lot of fabric covering it was very vulnerable to enemy fire.
Captured CR.42 being flown by RAF 
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05-01-2005, 03:25 AM
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| Beautiful and deadly CR.42 Falco.
Frightfully ugly and feeble Sea-Gladiator aka Sea Hag. 
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05-01-2005, 03:26 AM
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05-01-2005, 02:31 PM
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| You might be right Lanc. I found a photo of some Gladiator pilots celebrating their manueverability.
Pilots of the Malta based 203 Squadron celebrate a successful mission in February, 1940. 
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05-01-2005, 02:33 PM
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Country: | Well I dont see how it was less manouverable, and everthing ive read points the the CR.42 having the manouverability advantage.
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05-01-2005, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVIDICUS You might be right Lanc. I found a photo of some Gladiator pilots celebrating their manueverability.
Pilots of the Malta based 203 Squadron celebrate a successful mission in February, 1940.  | I knew it! GAAAAHHHH!!!  |
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05-01-2005, 02:55 PM
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05-01-2005, 03:08 PM
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05-02-2005, 02:12 PM
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| You crack me up David.  Definitely the funniest poster. |
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05-02-2005, 02:42 PM
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careful now, that's not something you say lightly........
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