Avenger or Dauntless - Aircraft of World War II

spitfire101 · 02-24-2007, 09:28 PM

If you had to fly one in WW2 by performance which one would you chose the avenger or dauntless?

And sorry ive been in Texas for track, my team won states and we broke a high school record, so i havent had much time to finish my first model if you guys still remember my post but ill try to get back to that and get some pictures up.

FLYBOYJ · 02-24-2007, 10:54 PM

Dauntless....

Something about a dive bomber and silk scarfs....

spitfire101 · 02-24-2007, 11:31 PM

whats was the dauntless' toughest thing to accplish, like hitting a target or being shot down before it could accoplish its mission? this is to flyboyj

FLYBOYJ · 02-24-2007, 11:46 PM

Actually the Dauntless hit their targets with minimal losses - it was highly maneuverable and although somewhat obsolete when the war started still served well. Here is the most detailed report you'll ever read abut the SBD, it explains why the aircraft was so successful...

http://www.midwaysaircraft.org/DAUNTLESSreport2106.pdf

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 02-25-2007, 06:11 AM

Well it would depend on what my mission. Dive Bombing I would take the Dauntless and Torpedo Bombing I would take the Avenger.

The Dauntless and the Avenger had two completely different missions. Two completely different aircraft.

lesofprimus · 02-25-2007, 09:19 AM

Same here Adler, 2 different craft designed for different mission profiles...

timshatz · 02-25-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitfire101

If you had to fly one in WW2 by performance which one would you chose the avenger or dauntless?

And sorry ive been in Texas for track, my team won states and we broke a high school record, so i havent had much time to finish my first model if you guys still remember my post but ill try to get back to that and get some pictures up.

Congrats on the win Spit, well done!

On the question of aircraft, if somebody was shooting at me I would rather be in the Dauntless (more manuverable and a smaller target). If I was dropping bombs on somebody else, I would go with the Turkey (Avenger). Larger payload, longer range, easy to fly.

FLYBOYJ · 02-25-2007, 11:59 AM

But as stated - 2 different aircraft, 2 different missions...

davparlr · 02-25-2007, 12:23 PM

Back to the original question, I'd like dive bombing role better. Droning along at 50' with nowhere to go but up is not my idea of fun. Of course, I know what I would be thinking of as I dove, "don't fixate on the target, don't fixate on the target".

lesofprimus · 02-25-2007, 12:47 PM

Agreed dav...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 02-25-2007, 01:34 PM

I too would rather Dive Bomb. You get hit up there you can still jump out. You hit at 50ft in a torpedo bomber you are going for a swim in the damn thing, and with my luck it would sink before I could get out of the cockpit!

delcyros · 02-25-2007, 01:37 PM

SBD Dauntless. Certainly the best plane to do the job when the war started and still very good in this job when the war concluded.

Gnomey · 02-25-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I too would rather Dive Bomb. You get hit up there you can still jump out. You hit at 50ft in a torpedo bomber you are going for a swim in the damn thing, and with my luck it would sink before I could get out of the cockpit!

Yeah, the height would be safer, for that reason I too would take the Dauntless.

mkloby · 02-25-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitfire101

whats was the dauntless' toughest thing to accplish, like hitting a target or being shot down before it could accoplish its mission? this is to flyboyj

Spit - look up Midway 4 Jun 42 the series of morning attacks. the Dauntless was hugely successful!

spitfire101 · 02-25-2007, 02:02 PM

thx mkloby ya ive been trying to find out more information about the avenger and the dauntless, thx for the help.

02-24-2007, 09:28 PM	#1
spitfire101 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 42	Avenger or Dauntless If you had to fly one in WW2 by performance which one would you chose the avenger or dauntless? And sorry ive been in Texas for track, my team won states and we broke a high school record, so i havent had much time to finish my first model if you guys still remember my post but ill try to get back to that and get some pictures up.

02-24-2007, 10:54 PM	#2
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,050	Dauntless.... Something about a dive bomber and silk scarfs.... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

02-24-2007, 11:46 PM	#4
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,050	Actually the Dauntless hit their targets with minimal losses - it was highly maneuverable and although somewhat obsolete when the war started still served well. Here is the most detailed report you'll ever read abut the SBD, it explains why the aircraft was so successful... http://www.midwaysaircraft.org/DAUNTLESSreport2106.pdf __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

02-25-2007, 06:11 AM	#5
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Well it would depend on what my mission. Dive Bombing I would take the Dauntless and Torpedo Bombing I would take the Avenger. The Dauntless and the Avenger had two completely different missions. Two completely different aircraft. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

02-25-2007, 09:19 AM	#6
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	Same here Adler, 2 different craft designed for different mission profiles... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

02-24-2007, 11:31 PM	#3
spitfire101 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 42	whats was the dauntless' toughest thing to accplish, like hitting a target or being shot down before it could accoplish its mission? this is to flyboyj

02-25-2007, 11:59 AM	#8
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,050	But as stated - 2 different aircraft, 2 different missions... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

02-25-2007, 12:23 PM	#9
davparlr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,485	Back to the original question, I'd like dive bombing role better. Droning along at 50' with nowhere to go but up is not my idea of fun. Of course, I know what I would be thinking of as I dove, "don't fixate on the target, don't fixate on the target".

02-25-2007, 12:47 PM	#10
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	Agreed dav... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

02-25-2007, 01:34 PM	#11
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I too would rather Dive Bomb. You get hit up there you can still jump out. You hit at 50ft in a torpedo bomber you are going for a swim in the damn thing, and with my luck it would sink before I could get out of the cockpit! __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

02-25-2007, 01:37 PM	#12
delcyros Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Berlin (Kreuzberg) Posts: 1,726	SBD Dauntless. Certainly the best plane to do the job when the war started and still very good in this job when the war concluded. __________________ ---delcyros---

02-25-2007, 02:02 PM	#15
spitfire101 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 42	thx mkloby ya ive been trying to find out more information about the avenger and the dauntless, thx for the help.

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