 | B-17, B-24, or Lancaster| Aviation Discuss B-17, B-24, or Lancaster in the World War II - Aviation forums; If the B17 was ranked #3 in your poll, why were they withdrawn from PTO/CBI early in 1943? The ... |
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04-03-2006, 06:58 PM
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| If the B17 was ranked #3 in your poll, why were they withdrawn from PTO/CBI early in 1943? The B17 was a rugged aircraft no doubt, but its payload and range were lacking.
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04-03-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 If the B17 was ranked #3 in your poll, why were they withdrawn from PTO/CBI early in 1943? The B17 was a rugged aircraft no doubt, but its payload and range were lacking. | You awnsered your own question. The question you asked was, 'why was the B17 withdrawn from the PTO in 1943?'
The reply you gave was, 'The B17 was lacking in payload and range'.
What was needed in the PTO, payload and range. | |
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04-03-2006, 09:01 PM
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| So you should have put the B24 in front of the B17.
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04-04-2006, 02:44 AM
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|  so, there.
Please note, my earlier opinions are somewhat tongue in cheek, and, if I could find where the smilies have gone would give you a good dose of them.
In my opinion, the B29 should not be mentioned in such illustrious and attractive company as these fine planes.
The B29 in my thoughts, is a plane belonging to the nrxt generation, where things like form and "beauty" were totally forgotten in a rush towards ugliness. | |
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04-04-2006, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by markvs Please note, my earlier opinions are somewhat tongue in cheek, and, if I could find where the smilies have gone would give you a good dose of them.
In my opinion, the B29 should not be mentioned in such illustrious and attractive company as these fine planes.
The B29 in my thoughts, is a plane belonging to the nrxt generation, where things like form and "beauty" were totally forgotten in a rush towards ugliness. | Form and beauty? the B-29 was one of the most beautiful aircraft to emerge from WW2!
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04-04-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Form and beauty? the B-29 was one of the most beautiful aircraft to emerge from WW2! | I tend to agree. While the Lancaster will always hold a place in my heart,(and lanc will no doubt reach through the monitor and slap me for this  ) it wasn't the prettiest bomber in the air. Neither was the Liberator. The B-29 however was a thing of silvery streamlined beauty. 
The B-17? Ehh...so-so. | |
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04-04-2006, 07:57 PM
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B-29 is a beauty and were way advanced for its time.
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Originally Posted by Henk So so my ass. Look at pictures of B-17 returning to base and I would say pretty great. | Yeah, s'pose. But then, I'd say the same thing for the Lancaster. It wasn't great looking by my estimation, but it was ok. | |
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04-04-2006, 08:20 PM
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Country: | Ok, yes there I would agree with you. I do not like the Lanc as much as the B-17 or the B-29.
It just does not do it for me, but it did have great things.
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04-04-2006, 08:27 PM
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04-05-2006, 12:21 AM
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04-05-2006, 06:47 AM
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| Yes, the ratio of Halifax to Lancasters on night bombing operations in 1943-1945 was about 4:5.
On March 31, 1944, Bomber Command servicable frontline strength (i.e. the number of bombers it could put in the air at any one time) was
532 Lancaster
370 Halifax
57 Stirling
63 Mosquitos
by June 1944, frontline strength had climbed to
856 Lancaster
809 Halifax
121 Stirling
297 Mosquitos
of which approximately 84% were available at any one time. | |
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04-06-2006, 03:50 AM
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| If you think that a cigar with wings is a beauty, then I am afraid that you guys are a bunch of sad puppies.
B17, how can you go past the curves and radii a, real shape not a tube with ends from a water tank 
The lanc I admit to a :rolleyes person dosent look much, but what a plane. They just exude power, and the sense of the struggle that was the european theatre. | |
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04-06-2006, 03:52 AM
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