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| Senior Member | B-17's that took a beating Here are some photos |
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| Senior Member | I have a lot more if you want to see |
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| Member Join Date: Sep 2006
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| cool picktures would love to see more ! jou got information what hit the bomber ? (FLAK,fighters) |
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| Senior Member | (In order) 1. THe first one was struck by a .88mm shell 2.was a 2 cm flak hit 3. 20mm shell by a Fw-190 4. was a 20mm cannon shell too and then caught fire when landing. All crew survived 5. THere is no info on that one but I would say a .88 shell. |
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| Senior Member | Later ill add some more i got some things to do today 5 oclock i will post more |
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__________________ ![]() "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr |
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| Senior Member | Yep GNomey good site right? |
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| Senior Member | The 2nd Bomb Group Plane 38078 on Mission 279 to Debrecen, Hungary Marshalling Yards on Sept. 21 1944. The Flight Crew Story This raid produced one of the great flying fortress survival stories of the war 2nd Lt Guy M. Miller and crew of "Sweet Pea" were approaching the target when an 88mm antiaircraft shell slammed into the plane's mid-section. exploded, and nearly tore the Fortress in two. Huge sections of the waist on both sides instantly disappeared, control cables were cut, electrical and communications systems went powerless and silent. Half of the bombs fell out of the bomb bay, the lower turret was jammed with the gunner inside, and the explosion blew deadly debris in all directions. The left waist gunner, Elmer H. Buss was killed instantly. The right waist gunner James F. Maguire, had multiple wounds but was saved by his back pack parachute, serving as a flak suit, saving his life. The tail gunner , S/Sgt. James E. Totty, was mortally wounded and died on the airplane. The radio operator, S/Sgt Anthony Ferrara was peppered like buckshot with shrapnel fragments in the chest. The stunned crew started its battle for survival. Lt. Miller and his copilot Lt. Thomas M. Rybovich struggled for control of the airplane and begin assessing what they had left to do it with. Most of the control cables were cut and his major control was through use of the engines, which miraculously, were undamaged. Lt. Miller thought about ordering bail out, but decided against that when he learned he had one dead, three wounded, and one stuck in the ball turret. The wounded were gathered in the radio room for first aid. The bombardier/ gunner S/Sgt Robert R. Mullen came back from the nose section and helped Sgt. Gerald McGuire, UTG, bring the mortally wounded S/Sgt Totty from the tail to the radio room. McGuire did finally succeed in freeing Cpl William F. Steuck from the ball turret. Later it was learned that turret was resting on three safety fingers which were all that kept the turret from falling out of the airplane, with Steuck inside. There were still six bombs hung up in the racks and Mullen climbed into the bomb bay and released them one by one with a screw driver. Against seemingly impossible odds. Lts. Miller and Rybovich now faced the reality of trying to nurse their mangled airplane and its battered crew across several hundred miles of enemy territory and almost 600 miles back to base. Navigator, 2nd Lt. Theodore Davich, plotted a course, and the pilots very gingerly set what was left of "Sweet Pea" on the long trek homeward. (This account is set out in "Defenders of Liberty" but I thought it such an outstanding achievement for this crew I would repeat it here.) source: Second Bomb Group
__________________ ![]() Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Escondido,Ca
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| What happened to the plane below them? it looks like the bombs are dropping on it? cool story seesul
__________________ ![]() Dont shoot him...... It will just make him angry. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Escondido,Ca
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| sorry seesul just realised wrong pics
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| Senior Member | It was bombs in that picture good story seesul |
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| Senior Member | More.......... |
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__________________ ![]() Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Escondido,Ca
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| That bottom one looks like the prop went through it b17 ?
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| Senior Member | I guess so
__________________ ![]() Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country. |
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