Best Aircraft in Many Different Roles Part II - Page 51 - Aircraft of World War II

wingnuts · 08-30-2007, 10:33 PM

I'm a bit late posting on this thread and may not be able to add much. It seems to be a contest between the Ju88, P38 and the Mosquito.

I think the Mosquito has a very slight edge, It was manufactured in the UK, Canada and Australia and it did remain in service until the early 60s.

It did star in several very notable raids like the attack on the Gestapo HQ and when disrupting a speech by Goering in Berlin and another even by Dr Goebbels... also over Berlin.

It did use a lot of non strategic materials and utilised the skills of craftsmen that would otherwise have been underused.

General "Hap" Arnold was enthisiasic about the aircraft although US manufacturers were sceptical. I beleve the USAAC did use some in the photo-reconassance role.

Even Herman Goering was envious

Quote:

"In 1940 I could at least fly as far as Glasgow in most of my aircraft, but not now! It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy.

The British, who can afford aluminium better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building, and they give it a speed which they have now increased yet again. What do you make of that?

There is nothing the British do not have. They have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops. After the war's over I'm going to buy a British radio set - then at least I'll own something that has always worked." (I'd dispute that last bit about the radio).

Finally I think the Mosquito looks better.... The P38 and JU88 look meaner but the Mozzie is one of those aircraft that look as good as they are..... were.... whatever.

I do like the P38 and by the way... although from the UK originally I'm not a die-hard "British is Best" faanatic...

magnocain · 10-29-2007, 12:04 AM

(im a noob at this so dont kill me)
i think the ju88 could carry a heavier bombload than either the p38 or the mosquito, so that should for somthing.
and i would like to point out that none of these planes could operate from a carrier

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-29-2007, 03:34 PM

That is not true.

The Royal Navy had the Sea Mosquito.

Mk. 33 equiped with power-folding wings, oleo main gearm four-blade propellers, arrester hook, four 20mm cannon, torpedo (or various bomb/rocket loads), American ASH radar and rocket JATO boost.

TF.37: Naval torpedo fighter, basically Mk. 33 with AI/ASV Mk. XIII radar.

Catch22 · 10-29-2007, 03:45 PM

Were they operational during WW2?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-30-2007, 10:47 AM

I am not sure on that.

ccheese · 10-30-2007, 12:06 PM

I am also late getting into this thread (and I'm not going through 51 pages)
but.... has anyone mentioned the PBY ? Rescue, Observation/Spotting,
Dive bomber, Torpedo bomber, Ambulance, Transport, Anti-sub, and a bit
of straffing.

Charles

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-30-2007, 12:30 PM

I agree the PBY was a great aircraft and did one hell of a job in the roles that it performed but the only reason I would not vote for the PBY is because there were sea planes in the same class as the PBY that could out perform, had better range and could perform the same tasks and sometimes more than the PBY.

As I said though the BPY (for me and in my opinion) would get an honorable mention and was one hell of a plane.

ccheese · 10-30-2007, 12:35 PM

I mearly mentioned the PBY..... the same could be said for the C-47/R4D.

It was one hell of an airplane.

Charles

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-30-2007, 12:54 PM

I mearly mentioned why I would not vote for it in my opinion....

Neto · 10-31-2007, 01:54 PM

in my opinion the ju 88 may be the best multiaction aircraft

DBII · 10-31-2007, 04:38 PM

Since the thread is so long, I did not read everything. My only question is has anyone brought up the B-25?

DBII

pbfoot · 10-31-2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBII

Since the thread is so long, I did not read everything. My only question is has anyone not brought up the B-25?

DBII

yep

Neto · 10-31-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBII

Since the thread is so long, I did not read everything. My only question is has anyone not brought up the B-25?

DBII

it is a nice airplane with a very hard fuselage but the junkers focus principally his amaising speed and fantastic versatiblility alied to his low production price and very good dive bombing made it a destructible wepon

magnocain · 10-31-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

The Royal Navy had the Sea Mosquito.

Mk. 33 equiped with power-folding wings, oleo main gearm four-blade propellers, arrester hook, four 20mm cannon, torpedo (or various bomb/rocket loads), American ASH radar and rocket JATO boost.

Ok, ya i found that the 'mossie' did go on carriers (5 minuets after i posted it), and as best as i can tell it very late war or post war. Didn't the Ju88 carry the largest load (the most bombs)?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-01-2007, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnocain

Didn't the Ju88 carry the largest load (the most bombs)?

No the Ju 88 was a medium bomber. It was a medium bomber and could carry 5500 lb of bombs.

10-29-2007, 12:04 AM	#752
magnocain Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 394	(im a noob at this so dont kill me) i think the ju88 could carry a heavier bombload than either the p38 or the mosquito, so that should for somthing. and i would like to point out that none of these planes could operate from a carrier __________________ Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets. --Napoleon Bonaparte--

10-29-2007, 03:34 PM	#753
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	That is not true. The Royal Navy had the Sea Mosquito. Mk. 33 equiped with power-folding wings, oleo main gearm four-blade propellers, arrester hook, four 20mm cannon, torpedo (or various bomb/rocket loads), American ASH radar and rocket JATO boost. TF.37: Naval torpedo fighter, basically Mk. 33 with AI/ASV Mk. XIII radar. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

10-29-2007, 03:45 PM	#754
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Were they operational during WW2? __________________

10-30-2007, 10:47 AM	#755
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	I am not sure on that. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

10-30-2007, 12:06 PM	#756
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	I am also late getting into this thread (and I'm not going through 51 pages) but.... has anyone mentioned the PBY ? Rescue, Observation/Spotting, Dive bomber, Torpedo bomber, Ambulance, Transport, Anti-sub, and a bit of straffing. Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

08-30-2007, 10:33 PM	#751
wingnuts Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 115	I'm a bit late posting on this thread and may not be able to add much. It seems to be a contest between the Ju88, P38 and the Mosquito. I think the Mosquito has a very slight edge, It was manufactured in the UK, Canada and Australia and it did remain in service until the early 60s. It did star in several very notable raids like the attack on the Gestapo HQ and when disrupting a speech by Goering in Berlin and another even by Dr Goebbels... also over Berlin. It did use a lot of non strategic materials and utilised the skills of craftsmen that would otherwise have been underused. General "Hap" Arnold was enthisiasic about the aircraft although US manufacturers were sceptical. I beleve the USAAC did use some in the photo-reconassance role. Even Herman Goering was envious Quote: "In 1940 I could at least fly as far as Glasgow in most of my aircraft, but not now! It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy. The British, who can afford aluminium better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building, and they give it a speed which they have now increased yet again. What do you make of that? There is nothing the British do not have. They have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops. After the war's over I'm going to buy a British radio set - then at least I'll own something that has always worked." (I'd dispute that last bit about the radio). Finally I think the Mosquito looks better.... The P38 and JU88 look meaner but the Mozzie is one of those aircraft that look as good as they are..... were.... whatever. I do like the P38 and by the way... although from the UK originally I'm not a die-hard "British is Best" faanatic...

10-30-2007, 12:30 PM	#757
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	I agree the PBY was a great aircraft and did one hell of a job in the roles that it performed but the only reason I would not vote for the PBY is because there were sea planes in the same class as the PBY that could out perform, had better range and could perform the same tasks and sometimes more than the PBY. As I said though the BPY (for me and in my opinion) would get an honorable mention and was one hell of a plane. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

10-30-2007, 12:35 PM	#758
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	I mearly mentioned the PBY..... the same could be said for the C-47/R4D. It was one hell of an airplane. Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

10-30-2007, 12:54 PM	#759
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	I mearly mentioned why I would not vote for it in my opinion.... __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

10-31-2007, 01:54 PM	#760
Neto Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lisbon Posts: 36	in my opinion the ju 88 may be the best multiaction aircraft

10-31-2007, 04:38 PM	#761
DBII Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,429	Since the thread is so long, I did not read everything. My only question is has anyone brought up the B-25? DBII Last edited by DBII; 10-31-2007 at 06:56 PM. Reason: TYPO

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