 | The Best Bf - 109 Variant ?| Aviation Discuss The Best Bf - 109 Variant ? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Well I am sorry but I have never seen that. Are you sure that it did not come from some ... |
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06-25-2005, 09:15 AM
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#511 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Well I am sorry but I have never seen that. Are you sure that it did not come from some computer game website. They make up a lot of stuff for the Luftwaffe that enver existed.
The computer generated design that you have up there looks awefully like a Fw-189V1-b and V-6 which was a modification of the Fw-189 reconaissance aircraft and originally to be a ground attack aircraft before it became what we know of today. It even had rear firing weapons like your picture up there. Instead of the large glass cockpit and the glass cone in the back of the fuselage it had a 2 seats for a pilot and a gunner. The cockpit was armoured and had rear firing guns in a turret. The characteristes as a ground attack aircraft were poor however because the aircraft was too heavy and crew visability was horrible. Test flights were made on the aircraft but it never entered production.
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06-25-2005, 07:24 PM
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Are you sure that it did not come from some computer game website. They make up a lot of stuff for the Luftwaffe that enver existed.
| No, I dont think so. Aniway is a nice pic. 
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06-25-2005, 08:16 PM
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#513 | | the old Sage
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06-26-2005, 03:22 AM
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#514 | | Master of Ewes
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06-26-2005, 08:47 AM
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Dont u erich???
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06-26-2005, 10:09 AM
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#516 | | Master of Ewes
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06-26-2005, 10:35 AM
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CB every one of the "OLD" profile publications profiles is inaccurate
| That is enough....I am making an asado ( BBQ) with all my "Proifle" books right now..¡¡. Those bad profiles are burning ¡¡  
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06-27-2005, 11:17 AM
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06-27-2005, 12:54 PM
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| I think "Franz / Fredrick" aka Bf 109F is the first best variant for Bf 109 fighter and second best would be for "Gustav" aka Bf 109G.
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06-27-2005, 02:42 PM
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#520 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I will agree with you that that Bf-109F was probably the best pure 109. The main problem she had was that she was under armed. This was quickely fixed with the 109G which happens to be my favorite.
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06-28-2005, 08:32 AM
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Country: | As the Bf-109 moved on in development it's flaws were increased. The Bf-109 was only great in the hands of an expert, luckily for the Luftwaffe they had more experts than the other nations.
It's a lot like the P-38 in the way that the P-38 with an experienced pilot was the best aircraft in the sky (or damn close to be) but not every pilot is an expert. In fact most pilots aren't, they just like to think they are.
So, I will say the Bf-109F was the best because it had good performance and the best handling of any Bf-109.
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06-28-2005, 10:51 AM
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#522 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree that of all the Varients the 109F was the best in those catagories.
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but not every pilot is an expert. In fact most pilots aren't, they just like to think they are.
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07-12-2005, 10:35 PM
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Country: | Anybody knows if this giro-gunsight was actually used by any late 109 version...? Askania EZ42 
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