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Old 10-22-2004, 01:04 AM   #46
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Whats the pic taken from?
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Old 10-22-2004, 01:39 AM   #47
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I think its from a B-25.....
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:16 AM   #48
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Evan, while it is true that 4 x 30mm will ruin ur day or anyone elses, the concentrated firepower of the 190-A8/R2 was more destructive....

2 x 13mm, 2 x 20mm, 2 x 30mm would cause more damage in a quicker amount of time than 4 x 30mm....

Either way, bomber crews had a rough time of it up there....

But the Fw-190A8/R2 was definatly a better platform for knocking down bombers.... Id rather be surrounded by armor plating and be slower than fast and easy to shoot down....

That makes no sense...


The Me-262's four concentrated cannons will make a lot more damage!

Lets say one burst equals a bullet out of each gun...

One pull on the 262=4 high explosive bullets, all in the nose - VERY CONCENTRATED

One pull on the 190=2 high explosive shells on the outer wings (easy to miss), 2 AP rounds on the inner wings (Ok, but not much damage unless to the fuel tanks or bombs...) and 2 13mm mg bullets (very rare to do anything)...


The Me-262 not only has a better chance of the shots landing together, the shells have a chance of creating damage anywhere.
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:57 AM   #49
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2 AP rounds on the inner wings (Ok, but not much damage unless to the fuel tanks or bombs...)
2x 20mm rounds wont do much damage????? Last time I checked, 20mm rounds do alot of damage, especially to a thin skinned bomber....

The amount of lead that an Fw-109 can spew into a target in 2 seconds is far greater than the amount of lead the -262 can deliver in the same amount of time... Plus the fact that one burst from a -262 and hes flown by the target...
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:10 AM   #50
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Which would be more destructive to a thin skin bomber???

1) 4 x 30mm
2) 2 x 30mm, 2 x 20mm, 2 x 13mm
3) 6 x 20mm, 2 x 13mm

Ill say # 2....
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:14 AM   #51
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I dont know, it depends on their location on the fighter.
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:18 AM   #52
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I dont know, it depends on their location on the fighter.
Ummm, if i understand u correctly:
The 4 x 30mm in the nose...
The 2 x 30mm in underwing gondolas, 2 x 20mm in wing roots, and 2 x 13mm in cowling...
The 6 x 20mm, 4 in underwing gondolas, 2 in wing roots, and 13mm in cowling...
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:25 AM   #53
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I'd go #1 then...
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:30 AM   #54
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You know that all armament platforms are sighted in for accuracy and convergence at a certain distance..... So all that lead from a 190A8/R2 comes together at 150yards, while the lead from the 4 x 30mm basically spreads out over the target area, as it had a very low velocity...
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Well If its going to spread out, on a thin skinned bomber surely thats better because you are more likely to hit a vital part of the plane, rather than a load of lead hitting a small area which may not be that important?
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:44 AM   #56
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Umm, slicing the wing off a B-24 certainly is important.... All that lead is like a giant chainsaw....

Also remember that the Fw-190 could come up behind a bomber, and just fill that bomber full of lead, while the -262 usually did a high speed head-on attack.... Armor plating is a wonderful thing aint it???
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Meh, armament and stuff aint really my thing
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:57 AM   #58
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Well thank God and Allah and Buddah that Im here then, to educate and alert u to this very important phase of aerial combat....
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Like ive said a million times before, I know next to nothing about planes at all, there are only 2 that that im mildly educated on
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Old 10-24-2004, 10:07 AM   #60
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Well then, lemme ask u this.....

What DO u know something about???? Fox Hunting??? The Female Anatomy??? Mini Coopers??? Pimple Popping??? Lanc's Sheeping Beastiality????

Just jokin....

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