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10-21-2004, 11:04 PM
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10-21-2004, 11:39 PM
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Country: | I think its from a B-25.....
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10-22-2004, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus Evan, while it is true that 4 x 30mm will ruin ur day or anyone elses, the concentrated firepower of the 190-A8/R2 was more destructive....
2 x 13mm, 2 x 20mm, 2 x 30mm would cause more damage in a quicker amount of time than 4 x 30mm....
Either way, bomber crews had a rough time of it up there....
But the Fw-190A8/R2 was definatly a better platform for knocking down bombers.... Id rather be surrounded by armor plating and be slower than fast and easy to shoot down.... |
That makes no sense...
The Me-262's four concentrated cannons will make a lot more damage!
Lets say one burst equals a bullet out of each gun...
One pull on the 262=4 high explosive bullets, all in the nose - VERY CONCENTRATED
One pull on the 190=2 high explosive shells on the outer wings (easy to miss), 2 AP rounds on the inner wings (Ok, but not much damage unless to the fuel tanks or bombs...) and 2 13mm mg bullets (very rare to do anything)...
The Me-262 not only has a better chance of the shots landing together, the shells have a chance of creating damage anywhere. |
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10-22-2004, 12:57 AM
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#49 | | Minister of Whoopass
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2 AP rounds on the inner wings (Ok, but not much damage unless to the fuel tanks or bombs...)
| 2x 20mm rounds wont do much damage????? Last time I checked, 20mm rounds do alot of damage, especially to a thin skinned bomber....
The amount of lead that an Fw-109 can spew into a target in 2 seconds is far greater than the amount of lead the -262 can deliver in the same amount of time... Plus the fact that one burst from a -262 and hes flown by the target...
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10-24-2004, 07:10 AM
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#50 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Which would be more destructive to a thin skin bomber???
1) 4 x 30mm
2) 2 x 30mm, 2 x 20mm, 2 x 13mm
3) 6 x 20mm, 2 x 13mm
Ill say # 2....
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10-24-2004, 07:14 AM
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Country: | I dont know, it depends on their location on the fighter.
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10-24-2004, 07:18 AM
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I dont know, it depends on their location on the fighter.
| Ummm, if i understand u correctly:
The 4 x 30mm in the nose...
The 2 x 30mm in underwing gondolas, 2 x 20mm in wing roots, and 2 x 13mm in cowling...
The 6 x 20mm, 4 in underwing gondolas, 2 in wing roots, and 13mm in cowling...
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10-24-2004, 07:25 AM
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10-24-2004, 07:30 AM
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Country: | You know that all armament platforms are sighted in for accuracy and convergence at a certain distance..... So all that lead from a 190A8/R2 comes together at 150yards, while the lead from the 4 x 30mm basically spreads out over the target area, as it had a very low velocity...
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10-24-2004, 07:36 AM
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Country: | Well If its going to spread out, on a thin skinned bomber surely thats better because you are more likely to hit a vital part of the plane, rather than a load of lead hitting a small area which may not be that important?
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10-24-2004, 07:44 AM
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Country: | Umm, slicing the wing off a B-24 certainly is important.... All that lead is like a giant chainsaw....
Also remember that the Fw-190 could come up behind a bomber, and just fill that bomber full of lead, while the -262 usually did a high speed head-on attack.... Armor plating is a wonderful thing aint it???
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10-24-2004, 07:55 AM
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10-24-2004, 07:57 AM
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#58 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Well thank God and Allah and Buddah that Im here then, to educate and alert u to this very important phase of aerial combat....
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10-24-2004, 08:01 AM
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10-24-2004, 08:07 AM
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#60 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Well then, lemme ask u this.....
What DO u know something about???? Fox Hunting??? The Female Anatomy??? Mini Coopers??? Pimple Popping??? Lanc's Sheeping Beastiality????
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I know next to nothing about planes at all
| Well atleast ur here learning about them man....
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