 | Best Bomber Killing Aircraft......| Aviation Discuss Best Bomber Killing Aircraft...... in the World War II - Aviation forums; Thats a bit wasteful though, using your life and one plane to knock down what would only probably be one ... |
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10-26-2004, 08:43 AM
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10-26-2004, 09:11 AM
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| so eject 1 sec befor you smash. | |
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10-26-2004, 11:05 AM
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Country: | But then you aint a kamikaze pilot  And its still a waste of a plane.
And do you know how tricky it was to eject back then? You dont just push a button, You gotta fling the canopy back and undo your straps (Did they even wear straps of any kind back then), and then climb out. All of which take at least 10 seconds, and if you were flying the He-162 or the manned version of the V1, you werent shaping to well...
The plane would go off course too.
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10-26-2004, 12:40 PM
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it was bad in most all bombers
| sorry, meant to say "almost all" bombers...................
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10-26-2004, 01:26 PM
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Country:  | yes straps were used to keep the fighter pilot in his seat while doing maneuvers.
there was no different recoil in the heavy SturmFw as there was in the regular four 2cm mounted A-8 variant. The 262 was problem at night with the 3cm because of the blinding flash and the closeness with which the jet had to be to a RAF a/c to knock it down. In the case of Dr. boiten who I know he only included just scant information on Becker as Becker on at least two occassions only used two 3cm weapons and yeas they could be fired as either two or four weapons. Becker will be covered in our book in-depth as we have a copy of his log-books.
The Bf 110G-2 with all it's funny heavy arms experiments were no match for the Allied escorts, neither was the 50mm equipped Me 410 A and B variants. Even the Me 262 had an experiment with a 50mm piece and on both missions the cannon failed by jamming. the unit was part of the JV 44 fighter group under Adolf Galland and flown by a German night fighter ace who transferred into the unit. Even with the jets speed the big gun slowed the a/c down and it was very hard to aim the heavy piece as it threw off the aerodynamics of the jet.
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10-26-2004, 01:28 PM
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#81 | | the old Sage
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10-26-2004, 02:04 PM
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Country: | That would look pretty funny, i can just imagine a plak and white piece of film footage of a B-17 with a load of men dropping out the bomb bay in quick succession 
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10-26-2004, 03:01 PM
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| now theres a real smart bomb. | |
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10-26-2004, 03:16 PM
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10-26-2004, 03:51 PM
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#85 | | the old Sage
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Country: | not so funny if you would have been in their position
there were also belly hatches as well as a side fuselage hatch
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10-27-2004, 10:21 AM
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| you can allways starp your self to a bomb. | |
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10-27-2004, 10:31 AM
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10-27-2004, 11:06 AM
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| you can make your self a smart bomb. | |
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10-27-2004, 12:05 PM
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#89 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but you have to ask, how smart is someone that straps themselfs to a bomb to make it a smart bomb??
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10-27-2004, 12:10 PM
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| The bomb bay was a common method of exit for those on the flight deck (pilot, co-pilot, flight-engineer) and anyone in the radio room immediately behind the bomb bay. I've seen some footage of this being done. It might look silly, but it was the quickest way out for those individuals in a situation where time was of the essence.
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