 | The Best Bomber of WWII: #4| Aviation Discuss The Best Bomber of WWII: #4 in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
The B-17 was as well. Infact the B-17 was probably used in more roles ... |
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11-27-2007, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  The B-17 was as well. Infact the B-17 was probably used in more roles than the Liberator and flew better and was more rugged and dependable. | The B24 was more versatile than the B17, due to its larger bomb bays and larger fuel load.
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11-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The B-17 was as well. Infact the B-17 was probably used in more roles than the Liberator and flew better and was more rugged and dependable. | Also, although I can't speak from first hand experience, I've heard from more than a few that the B-17 was a lot easier to fly than the B-24, or for that matter any of the heavies of WW II. And yes, the ruggedness and dependability of the Fort is legendary. Battle-Damaged B-17 Flying Fortresses
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11-27-2007, 01:14 PM
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| Yes, the B17 was quite rugged. But...... the purpose of a bomber is to drop as many bombs on target as possible. And the B17 had the lowest payload and range of the four principle heavy bombers of the war.
There was also the issue of it flying so high. Good for survivability.... but.... bad for bomb accuracy.
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11-28-2007, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The B24 was more versatile than the B17, due to its larger bomb bays and larger fuel load. | I was not talking about bomb sizes and what not. I am talking about varients and versatility. The B-17 was more versatile overall.
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11-28-2007, 07:26 AM
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11-28-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AL Schlageter What were the uses the B-17 and B-24 were put to? | Recon, ASW, SAR, transport, training, and later for the B-17, target drones.
Just a few off the top of my head....
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11-28-2007, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AL Schlageter What were the uses the B-17 and B-24 were put to? | B-17
Bomber
Trainer (TB-17)
Bomber Escort (YB-40 26 built; unsuccessfull and never put into full production)
Transport (C-108 and CB-17)
VIP Transport (VB-17)
Recon (RB-17)
Photo Recon (F-9 Flying Fortress)
AWACS (PB-1 and PB-1W utilized the AN/APS-20 radar and used to develop Airborne Early Warning equipment)
Search and Rescue (SB-17G and PB-1G equipped with an airborne lifeboat and ASV radar)
Target Drone (QB-17) B-24
Bomber
Bomber Escort (XB-41 only 1 built)
Trainer (AT-24 or TB-24 or RB-24L)
Transport (C-87)
Fuel Tanker (C-109)
Photo Recon (F-7 or PB4Y-1P)
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11-28-2007, 10:15 AM
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Country: | The B-17 and B-24 were also used in "Operation Aphrodite" as remotely controlled "bombs". This use was short-lived as it was very dangerous. I believe Joe Kennedy Jr. (brother of JFK) was killed on a mission, I think in a B-24.
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11-28-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet B-17
Bomber
Trainer (TB-17)
Bomber Escort (YB-40 26 built; unsuccessfull and never put into full production)
Transport (C-108 and CB-17)
VIP Transport (VB-17)
Recon (RB-17)
Photo Recon (F-9 Flying Fortress)
AWACS (PB-1 and PB-1W utilized the AN/APS-20 radar and used to develop Airborne Early Warning equipment)
Search and Rescue (SB-17G and PB-1G equipped with an airborne lifeboat and ASV radar)
Target Drone (QB-17)
plus Target Drone Control (Mother Ship) - one of my father's best friends was killed accidentally at Eglin in 1952(?) when an F86D under the hood acquired and shot down the control B-17 instead of Drone
B-24
Bomber
Bomber Escort (XB-41 only 1 built)
Trainer (AT-24 or TB-24 or RB-24L)
Transport (C-87)
Fuel Tanker (C-109)
Photo Recon (F-7 or PB4Y-1P) | B-24 also used as OSS/agent Night insertion ship all over ETO | |
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11-28-2007, 10:35 AM
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| I dont think B17's were used extensively in the dedicated ASW aspect of the war. They did perform it on occasion, but only when no other aircraft were available
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11-28-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 I dont think B17's were used extensively in the dedicated ASW aspect of the war. They did perform it on occasion, but only when no other aircraft were available | Don't forget the RAF... 
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11-28-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill plus Target Drone Control (Mother Ship) - one of my father's best friends was killed accidentally at Eglin in 1952(?) when an F86D under the hood acquired and shot down the control B-17 instead of Drone | Sorry to hear that Bill.  Quote:
Originally Posted by drgondog B-24 also used as OSS/agent Night insertion ship all over ETO | Yeah but that is pretty much transport I think.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Sorry to hear that Bill.
Yeah but that is pretty much transport I think. | Chris - if you lived at Eglin or Edwards in the 50's someone you knew or liked died every month in an accident.
The Carpetbagggers otherwise known as the 36th and 406th of the 801st BG flew from March 1944 until April 26, 1945. They flew B24D, B-24H, B-24J, C-47, Mossie XVI and A-26B's. They were detached to 15th AF in Jan 1945 and 'did it all'. Dropped guerillas, agents, supplies, petroleum re-supply, radio relay (night - to coordinate R/T traffic from agents), Weather Scout and finally Training... but yes - definitely Transport..
Fairly unique operations throughout Europe. RAF also had this type unit but not sure what the designation was. | |
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12-04-2007, 10:11 PM
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Country:  | The RAAF in the Pacific had two B-24 special duties flights, 200 and 201. 200 Flight was used for dropping agents and Z force soldiers behind enemy lines and also resupplied them etc. 201 flight was an electronic warfare and surveillance unit, however I don't believe they flew any operations before the war ended.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Don't forget the RAF... | Or the Luftwaffe. kg_200_b17.jpg
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