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03-08-2005, 10:54 AM
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#61 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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03-08-2005, 11:48 AM
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#62 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Erich KK since there is no official history of any of the NJG it is impossible to tell. A small book privately published on NJG 6 was done but still incomplete. in fact there was an English book just recently done on German night fighter claims but it is a dog with many gaps. Dr. Theo Boiten will produce his in 2006 so that is a must have and then we will get at least some good idea of just what a/c scored what..........
E ~ | As you said there is no official history of it but from what I have found so far there were but if you go to this website you can read up on some of the night fighter pilots http://www.luftwaffe.cz/nacht.html
Now the authenticity of this I am not sure of.
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04-05-2005, 05:49 PM
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#63 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | A very rare clip, FW-190 attacking allied ground units in the western front.
Lunatic if you see this, look at the 20mm tracers, it left a big smoke trail behind, almost like a rocket, that is what I am saying about the FW-190 from the other video, seem no using 20mm ammo at all.
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04-05-2005, 06:32 PM
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#64 | | He who does not skim
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04-06-2005, 06:22 AM
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04-07-2005, 03:06 PM
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#66 | | Der Crewchief
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04-07-2005, 04:21 PM
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#67 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | Adler did you note on Petr's site that a funny guy named Erich helped with it ? .... 
by the way the night ace Kurt Welter's bio is all mucked up. We have the straight poop on this stealth fellow for Moskito-jagd buch, and in fact I could probably write a bio on each one of the night aces if I had time.............but I do not. Paul Zorner and Heinz Rökker two of the leading night personalities are friends of mine
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04-07-2005, 04:23 PM
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#68 | | Der Crewchief
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04-07-2005, 04:27 PM
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#69 | | the old Sage
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Country: | maybe of interest to some but for Martin Tino Becker I know his Bordfünker Karl Johanssen who is also a Ritterkreuz winner. Karl was able to give me precise details about the 9 kills they had on one March 45 eve where Karl shot down 3 RAF bombers with his single mg 131 in their Ju 88G-6. Interesting story which I shared with Petr so that he may put some biref notes on his site under Tino's bio. Incidently I have the full story on the B-17 crew that was lost on that night. the German crew also had a radio fire while they were in the middle of the RAF "heavies-bomber stream" | |
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04-07-2005, 04:30 PM
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#70 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Oh hey Erich sorry but I did not make it there last weekend, I have not forgotten though about your cousin and I am still going to check it out.
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04-07-2005, 05:14 PM
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#71 | | the old Sage
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04-08-2005, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlesBronson A very rare clip, FW-190 attacking allied ground units in the western front.
Lunatic if you see this, look at the 20mm tracers, it left a big smoke trail behind, almost like a rocket, that is what I am saying about the FW-190 from the other video, seem no using 20mm ammo at all. | Perhaps. Alternatively it was simply not using tracers many pilots chose to load only the mine ammo in the MG151/20, it made the gun more reliable and the tracer ballistics was very different from the mine round ballistics anyway.
The Germans were also known to use a wide variety of tracers throughout the war. Just because these make a lot of smoke does not mean all 20mm tracers did.
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04-08-2005, 11:12 PM
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#73 | | Senior Member
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04-09-2005, 02:39 AM
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#74 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i wouldn't call the Ta-152 a -190, it's a member of the same family, but it's not a varient of the -190..........
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04-09-2005, 05:48 AM
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#75 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Yep. 190 variants are those such as the A, D, F, G etc...
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