 | Best medium bomber?| Aviation Discuss Best medium bomber? in the World War II - Aviation forums; i'm just waiting for CC to come along and say the droopsnoot P-38 was the best medium bomber.............. |
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03-06-2005, 11:23 AM
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#61 | | Master of Ewes
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03-06-2005, 11:25 AM
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03-06-2005, 11:34 AM
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03-06-2005, 11:38 AM
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03-06-2005, 11:41 AM
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| Ive always thought that the mossie suffered somewhat for being an all-rounder. It could have been the British Lightning...or a twin-engined Typhoon...or the best nightfighter of the war...or an anti-shipping strike aircraft...but in the end it was jack of all trades and master of none. Thats not to take away from the massive contribution the mossie made to the RAF campaigns, especially Operation Overlord, but I cant help feeling that had the mosiie been given just one or two roles, it might have trult excelled 
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03-06-2005, 11:55 AM
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Country: | It excelled anyway- best nightfighter, best pathfinder and one of the best anti-shipping aircraft. Wasn't that bad at submarine killing either
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03-06-2005, 11:57 AM
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#67 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but it did truely excel, it was the allie's best nightfighter, one of our best bombers, a first rate maritime patrol aircraft and a superb attack plane..........
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03-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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03-06-2005, 12:02 PM
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| Ok, a few things...
1. How are you defining best nightfighter? In any quantatative assessment (i.e kills/losses), the winner will be a German type simply because they did the most nightfighting. The Mossie NFs didnt face the kind of combat testing the German aircraft did.
2. Anti-shipping - only a few of the Mollins Gun fitted models were delivered. Quantataively, something like the SBD, D3A or B25 is going to get the ship hunting title. So again, how can you support an argument that the Mossie is the best ship-killer of the war?
Im not trying to be awkward, its just that you seem confident that the Mossie beat all other aircraft at everything, even roles in which it had little participation
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03-06-2005, 12:08 PM
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Country: | at no point, you can check if you wish, did i claim the mossie was the allies best anti-shipping aircraft, i said she was "a first rate maritime patrol aircraft", and i know only about 18 Mk.XVIIIs were made, she still did allot of work with rockets...............
"the winner will be a German type simply because they did the most nightfighting" why the hell are you bringing german fighters into this?? i said the mossie was the best allied nightfighter, what's that got to do with the germans??
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03-06-2005, 12:10 PM
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| Sorry,I was referring to Mosquitomans post for the anti-shipping claim and the nightfighter claim - I hadnt seen your post, it must have been posted as I typed 
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03-06-2005, 12:44 PM
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03-06-2005, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman It excelled anyway- best nightfighter, best pathfinder and one of the best anti-shipping aircraft. Wasn't that bad at submarine killing either | That was the post I was going by. I withdraw the anti-shipping comment - that was misunderstanding on my part But I still stand by comments about the mossie not being the best nightfighter of the war
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03-06-2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman But I still stand by comments about the mossie not being the best nightfighter of the war | To compare an a/c's performance, one has to ask if it would have better or worse while flying for the other airforce. So, would the Mossie have done better or worse in LW service than the LW's NFs? | |
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03-06-2005, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass i really wouldn't be supprised if he did, i know him well enough to say that....... | Well you obvioulsy dont...why do you keep assuming that im going to say riduculous things? I aint a f*cking thick ****
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