 | Which was the best night fighter?| Aviation Discuss Which was the best night fighter? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Hallo Erich,
had a look on your hompage. Well done, very informative. I saw that you did some research regarding ... |
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02-16-2007, 11:58 AM
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had a look on your hompage. Well done, very informative. I saw that you did some research regarding Hptm. Huy - so I post some pics of him, maybe you don't have them.
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03-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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03-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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03-11-2007, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnomey As has been gone over many times in quite a few different threads... | Even in this one.
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03-12-2007, 10:37 AM
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Talk to Erich about it. He is pretty much our Night Fighter expert.
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06-22-2007, 07:55 AM
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the bf-109 seemed to be the only one in documentrys and that. but i do belive that the p-38 was good along with the p-61 and mossie.
i agree that the me-262 would have been sucessful in the night fighter role in the numbers.
(i herd that the p-61 had severe flight issues and was reported falling out of the sky thats how it got the name "black widow". feel free to correct me as ive done little research)
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06-22-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by blu3y4 feel free to correct me as ive done little research) | No kidding!  |
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P-61 got it's sobriquet from being painted in balck all over and was a very good plane (deadly to the enemy rather than to it's own crew). But IMO the best allied nightfighters were the Mosquito NF XXX and the Beaufighter MkVI.
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The He 219A was lets just say it was hopeless for all the effort put into it, even though the project was axed
The Mossie XXX was the ultimate for the Allies
The Bf 109G was the token a/c for earlier 1943 Wilde Sau missions, the Fw 190A to some extent but too heavy with it's arms package and vertical aerial arrays - Neptun.
the P-38 used in the Pacific was the plain ol day fighter version for night missions. |
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06-22-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by blu3y4
(i herd that the p-61 had severe flight issues and was reported falling out of the sky thats how it got the name "black widow". feel free to correct me as ive done little research) | You are corrected, now do some research...
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ You are corrected, now do some research... | thanks for the support.............. |
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ You are corrected, now do some research... | hey guess what, i did!!. a certain book i found says the P-61 had enogh major poblems to prevent full production. the fuel system, tail unit and flaps all had to be modified.
"the troubles were all due to the fact that there was so much to go wrong; for example there were 229 design changes to the cannon installation alone between early 1942 and 1944"(Aircraft of WW2) |
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Originally Posted by blu3y4 hey guess what, i did!!. a certain book i found says the P-61 had enogh major poblems to prevent full production. the fuel system, tail unit and flaps all had to be modified.
"the troubles were all due to the fact that there was so much to go wrong; for example there were 229 design changes to the cannon installation alone between early 1942 and 1944"(Aircraft of WW2) | The P-61 was a very advanced aircraft for its day and featured many things considered state of the art. Even in service many times the turrets were removed to save weight and in essence just weren't needed. With that said any new aircraft especially one featuring new and innovative features will have problems and continual design changes are a continual event in production aircraft.
In the end the "Black Widow" name of the P-61 wasn't given to it because operational issues.
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