 | Best Piston Engined Fighter Ever| Aviation Discuss Best Piston Engined Fighter Ever in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by Udet
Ermmm...was it the Spitfire that bore the brunt of the aerial combat during 1944?
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02-24-2007, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Udet  Ermmm...was it the Spitfire that bore the brunt of the aerial combat during 1944? | Did I say ANYTHING about "bore the brunt"? No. 
I was refering to its continued competitiveness, and that continued state over the course of the war, from Oct 1939 to Aug 1945.
We all know that the USAAF took over the primary role against the Luftwaffe in late 1943/early 1944 with the arrival of the P-51 and long range capabilities for the P-47. Why did you feel the need to bring it up?
PS, as for seeing action:
Spitfires lost in operations 01-Jan-1944 to 31-Dec-1944, ETO:
Jan: 28
Feb: 12
Mar:16
Apr: 29
May: 69
Jun: 159
Jul: 96
Aug: 119
Sep: 92
Oct: 62
Nov: 53
Dec: 62
The Spitfire remained the primary RAF fighter type throughout the war, and saw more combat sorties than any other Allied fighter type.
At all times during the war the Spitfire was as dangerous an adversay for its opponents as any other fighter type. In interrogations conducted by Allied intelligence of captured LuftWaffe and Reggia Aeronautica fighter pilots, the Spitfire remained at the top of the list of fighters they least liked to encounter. That says enough to convince me it remained competitive throughout the war. | 
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03-11-2007, 11:09 AM
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1.Mitsubishi A6M Reisen
2.Kyushu J7W Shinden
3.Kawasaki Ki-61
4.Nakajima Ki-27
5.Messershmitt Bf109G-14
6.Fiat G-55 Centauro
7.Reggiane Re.2005
8.Mitsubishi A5M Claude
9.Kawasaki Ki-45
10.Supermarine Spitfure
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Can you please explain why you ranked those planes in that order as you did, and why you left out aircraft such as Fw-190A and D, Typhoon, P-51D, P-38 Lightning and P-47. Again it is your opinion and you are allowed but I would just like to know your opinion.
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03-11-2007, 11:23 AM
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sorry...but I don't like planes that shot down japanese ones
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03-11-2007, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Ive sent him a pm about some of this stuff. | Good - reminds me of P-38 on acid.
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Originally Posted by ohka345 It doesn't make them bad aircraft,theyr'e actually pretty good.It's just that I don't really like to see a Zero get blown out of the sky BY one of these aircraft. | Well it was reality kid - the Zero preformed well in the early stages of the war because allied pilots tried to dogfight with it at under 300 mph. Over that speed she did not maneuver well and at real high speeds even the P-40, yes, the P-40 could out turn her....
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Originally Posted by ohka345 I know.The Zero really did get whipped at the last years of the war.So they used it for KAMIKAZE!!! | Actally the whipping started in the late summer of 1942...
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