Best Tank Killer of WW2 continued - Page 13 - Aircraft of World War II

pbfoot · 04-21-2005, 05:26 PM

i think maybe 7.3 min to 25

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-22-2005, 12:12 PM

Sorry the Kingcobra was just a feeble attempt to upgrade the Airacobra.

Nonskimmer · 04-22-2005, 12:14 PM

Wasn't that built at the request of the Russians, with their input?

04-23-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Sorry the Kingcobra was just a feeble attempt to upgrade the Airacobra.

Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.

I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.

=S=

Lunatic

KraziKanuK · 04-23-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic

Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.

I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.

=S=

Lunatic

The P-39 did not loose its supercharger. What it did loose was its TURBOcharger. All Allison V-170s had a single stage supercharger. The P-63 had an Allison with a 2 stage supercharger.

The P-63 was on an equal performance footing as the P-51, except for range.

04-23-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KraziKanuK

Quote:

Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic

Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.

I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.

=S=

Lunatic

The P-39 did not loose its supercharger. What it did loose was its TURBOcharger. All Allison V-170s had a single stage supercharger. The P-63 had an Allison with a 2 stage supercharger.

The P-63 was on an equal performance footing as the P-51, except for range.

Ummm that is loosing (some of its) supercharging. I didn't realize it was originally supposed to have a turbo unit.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-24-2005, 02:13 PM

Okay fine but if you put it that way then the P-63 was upgraded to a still inferior aircraft of the time. Plus who really wanted to sit on the drive shaft for the propellers? The vibrations would tickle your prostate a bit too much!

pbfoot · 04-24-2005, 03:04 PM

but that hunk of iron behind you would sure give you a little feeling of security

the lancaster kicks ass · 04-24-2005, 03:22 PM

yes, behind you, where it's even more vaunurable.........

pbfoot · 04-24-2005, 05:46 PM

if i was the pilot the engine would certainly take 2nd place over my butt

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-25-2005, 04:38 AM

I just dont think it was that great of an aircraft.

the lancaster kicks ass · 04-25-2005, 11:34 AM

becasue it wasn't...........

04-25-2005, 02:04 PM

Probably not, but I have not seen enough on the P-63's wartime performance to have any idea. I suspect it would have been an excellent bomber killer but other than that pretty medocre.

=S=

Luantic

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-26-2005, 05:14 PM

Thats pretty much because the only ones who had any faith in it and used it extensivly were the Russians.

04-26-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Thats pretty much because the only ones who had any faith in it and used it extensivly were the Russians.

The Russian's didn't really use the P-63 in WWII. Stalin was holding them in reserve to intercept Allied bombers in the war he expected to pursue after the German's were defeated. It was the only plane in his arsonnel that could intercept bombers at altitude.

04-22-2005, 12:12 PM	#182
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Sorry the Kingcobra was just a feeble attempt to upgrade the Airacobra. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

04-24-2005, 02:13 PM	#187
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Okay fine but if you put it that way then the P-63 was upgraded to a still inferior aircraft of the time. Plus who really wanted to sit on the drive shaft for the propellers? The vibrations would tickle your prostate a bit too much! __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

04-24-2005, 03:22 PM	#189
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	yes, behind you, where it's even more vaunurable......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

04-25-2005, 04:38 AM	#191
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I just dont think it was that great of an aircraft. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

04-25-2005, 11:34 AM	#192
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	becasue it wasn't........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

04-21-2005, 05:26 PM	#181
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,588	i think maybe 7.3 min to 25

04-22-2005, 12:14 PM	#183
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Wasn't that built at the request of the Russians, with their input?

04-24-2005, 03:04 PM	#188
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,588	but that hunk of iron behind you would sure give you a little feeling of security

04-24-2005, 05:46 PM	#190
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,588	if i was the pilot the engine would certainly take 2nd place over my butt

04-25-2005, 02:04 PM	#193
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Probably not, but I have not seen enough on the P-63's wartime performance to have any idea. I suspect it would have been an excellent bomber killer but other than that pretty medocre. =S= Luantic

04-26-2005, 05:14 PM	#194
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Thats pretty much because the only ones who had any faith in it and used it extensivly were the Russians. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

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