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04-21-2005, 03:26 PM
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#181 | | Senior Member
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04-22-2005, 10:12 AM
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#182 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | 
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04-22-2005, 10:14 AM
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#183 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Wasn't that built at the request of the Russians, with their input? | |
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04-23-2005, 03:15 PM
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#184 | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Sorry the Kingcobra was just a feeble attempt to upgrade the Airacobra. | Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.
I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.
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04-23-2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.
I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.
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Lunatic | The P-39 did not loose its supercharger. What it did loose was its TURBOcharger. All Allison V-170s had a single stage supercharger. The P-63 had an Allison with a 2 stage supercharger.
The P-63 was on an equal performance footing as the P-51, except for range. | |
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04-23-2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK Quote: |
Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic Well, remember the Airacobra was downgraded by removing the supercharging. Other than that, it was not that bad a plane. The Kingcobra got that supercharging back.
I don't know if the KingCobra was any good or not. Stalin evidently thought rather highly of it.
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Lunatic | The P-39 did not loose its supercharger. What it did loose was its TURBOcharger. All Allison V-170s had a single stage supercharger. The P-63 had an Allison with a 2 stage supercharger.
The P-63 was on an equal performance footing as the P-51, except for range. | Ummm that is loosing (some of its) supercharging. I didn't realize it was originally supposed to have a turbo unit. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:13 PM
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#187 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Okay fine but if you put it that way then the P-63 was upgraded to a still inferior aircraft of the time. Plus who really wanted to sit on the drive shaft for the propellers? The vibrations would tickle your prostate a bit too much!  
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04-24-2005, 01:04 PM
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04-24-2005, 01:22 PM
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#189 | | Master of Ewes
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04-24-2005, 03:46 PM
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04-25-2005, 02:38 AM
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#191 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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04-25-2005, 09:34 AM
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#192 | | Master of Ewes
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04-25-2005, 12:04 PM
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#193 | | | Probably not, but I have not seen enough on the P-63's wartime performance to have any idea. I suspect it would have been an excellent bomber killer but other than that pretty medocre.
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04-26-2005, 03:14 PM
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#194 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Thats pretty much because the only ones who had any faith in it and used it extensivly were the Russians.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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04-26-2005, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Thats pretty much because the only ones who had any faith in it and used it extensivly were the Russians. | The Russian's didn't really use the P-63 in WWII. Stalin was holding them in reserve to intercept Allied bombers in the war he expected to pursue after the German's were defeated. It was the only plane in his arsonnel that could intercept bombers at altitude. | |
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