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10-19-2006, 04:26 PM
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10-19-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnomey  The Typhoons had a very bad hit rate against armour with their rockets if I remember right - upwards of 100 rockets used for one hit. | 200, according to Operational Research. Even when practicing in ideal conditions (and with no-one shooting back at them) it took, on average, 20 RPs fired for every hit on a tank. And RPs were accurate, compared with bombs...
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10-19-2006, 07:49 PM
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#678 | | Minister of Whoopass
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10-19-2006, 09:59 PM
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Country:  | For a tank kill how about the Rheinmetall G104 cag 365mm recoilless cannon
Muzzle velocity proectile 1'034ft/sec
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10-20-2006, 03:24 AM
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#680 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by wolfpath beautiful picture....did you make it? | What picture?
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10-21-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnomey The Typhoons had a very bad hit rate against armour with their rockets if I remember right - upwards of 100 rockets used for one hit. | Well Rockets even now havnt really Advanced, theyre still pretty inaccurate, they may have be improved through better coordination of fire, but the fact that the 200 rockets fired to get 1 hit in my mind doesnt reflect the aircrafts performance just the chinsy weaponry
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10-21-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars but the fact that the 200 rockets fired to get 1 hit in my mind doesnt reflect the aircrafts performance just the chinsy weaponry | The weapons an aircraft can carry affect its effectiveness in doing its job, though. You could say that the plane is just the delivery vehicle: it's the weapons that do the damage. In reality, it's the whole package - the weapon system, in modern parlance - which matters.
If you really wanted to knock out tanks from the air, nothing beat a good, big, cannon.
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10-22-2006, 01:51 PM
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#683 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree, a big cannon or a bomb.
To me the best tank busters are (and in no particular order) the Il-2, Ju-87G-1, Fw-190F-8, P-47D, and Hurricane IID.
Honorable Mention goes to the Typhoon and the HS-127 (she would have been a great tank buster had it not been for her shitty French engines).
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10-22-2006, 03:14 PM
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Country:  | How about the B-29?
Any tank that was parked in two Japanese cities was toast by the end of the day. 
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10-22-2006, 03:53 PM
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#685 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Hs 129 Chris, not the 127... I hold the Hs-129 in a higher regard as a dedicated tank-buster than I do the P-47D, but the Fw 190F-8, the Ju 87G and the Il2 round out the top 4...
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10-22-2006, 04:21 PM
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#686 | | Der Crewchief
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10-23-2006, 01:13 PM
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Country: | i'm curious as to why les mentioned the P-47D and to an extent the -190F in his list of dedicated ani-tank aircraft, the Hurricane Mk.IID being far superior.............
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10-23-2006, 06:00 PM
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Country: | The greatest dealers of death have to be the Il-2, Ju-87G and Hurricane IID / IV. However, these planes were not the greatest protectors of their crews.
And we must take into account what armour we're dealing with. Even without the RP, the Typhoon could deal considerable damage to the Wehrmacht armour - remember, the Pz.Kpfw III and IV were the majority armour pieces albeit the Pz.Kpfw V was more numerous in the Ardennes Offensive, even if they did lack the fuel to run them all.
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10-23-2006, 06:23 PM
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i'm curious as to why les mentioned the P-47D and to an extent the -190F in his list of dedicated ani-tank aircraft
| I didnt mention the P-47D, Adler did, and I was just voicing my opinion that the Hs-129 was a better tankbuster than the -47D...
As for the Fw 190F, if u remember Lanc, the Panzerblitz destroyed many many Russian tanks, and was superior in every way shape and form to the Hurricane...
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10-24-2006, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks *** i'm curious as to why les mentioned the P-47D and to an extent the -190F in his list of dedicated ani-tank aircraft, the Hurricane Mk.IID being far superior............. | What are you talking about the Fw-190 was a better aircraft in all catagories when compared to the Hurricane....any mark.
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