 | Best Tank Killer of WW2 continued| Aviation Discuss Best Tank Killer of WW2 continued in the World War II - Aviation forums; This is a seriuos contender, specially if the Pzg40 30 mm amo is used.... |
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04-20-2007, 08:10 PM
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Country:  | This is a seriuos contender, specially if the Pzg40 30 mm amo is used. 
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04-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlesBronson  This is a seriuos contender, specially if the Pzg40 30 mm amo is used. | The Mk 103 installation was a failure and never saw action, except perhaps on a trial basis. The recoil proved too heavy and disturbed the aim, so it was very inaccurate.
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04-20-2007, 10:44 PM
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Country: | Funny, one might think that the wings wich were enough strong to ram a bomber would suit for this cannon. 
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09-14-2007, 11:40 PM
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09-16-2007, 12:53 AM
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Country: | I'm sorry, but I have always felt that those medals looked really stupid. I mean it looks like the guy got a medal for every time he took a pee. You would think that the wearer would have to put a broom up his bum or walk around bent over???? | |
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09-16-2007, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tpikdave I'm sorry, but I have always felt that those medals looked really stupid. I mean it looks like the guy got a medal for every time he took a pee. You would think that the wearer would have to put a broom up his bum or walk around bent over???? | The military worldwide seem to like doing that. I mean, I was struck by the fact that General Petreaus had a chest full of pretty ribbons on his uniform when in front of a Congressional Committee last week. But the guy first saw combat in 2003, when already a general. So what did he get all those awards for?
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09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
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Country:  | Yeah that has become a problem. Most in the military disapprove it.
Oh well atleast I can say that my 13 medals were all earned....
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09-16-2007, 07:01 PM
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Country: | Its military law not custom, that dictates when in dress uniform an officer (maybe enlisted too dunno) must wear ALL medals. I think that should be up to the individual but its been this way for 2 centuries. | |
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09-16-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tpikdave Its military law not custom, that dictates when in dress uniform an officer (maybe enlisted too dunno) must wear ALL medals. I think that should be up to the individual but its been this way for 2 centuries. | Sure - but what did Petreaus do to earn them?
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09-16-2007, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Williams Sure - but what did Petreaus do to earn them? | I've heard a lot of guys railing on the general for this. First off, I'll point out that not all awards are combat related - there are many that are not. I recall the general rating a Bronze Star; but other than that, many acheivement awards. If you don't have any bonafide eyewitness accounts that indicate he was undeserving and does not legitimately rate any of his awards - then please let it go rather than demean the general.
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09-16-2007, 09:54 PM
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Country: | My comment was not a criticism of General Petreus (I have no doubt that he was entitled to wear those ribbons) but concerned the military's habit of covering their chests with award ribbons. At one time, a medal meant that the recipient had at the very least participated in a campaign, and in some cases with great distinction. These days, they seem to hand them out like sweets.
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09-17-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mkloby I've heard a lot of guys railing on the general for this. First off, I'll point out that not all awards are combat related - there are many that are not. I recall the general rating a Bronze Star; but other than that, many acheivement awards. If you don't have any bonafide eyewitness accounts that indicate he was undeserving and does not legitimately rate any of his awards - then please let it go rather than demean the general. | Agreed mkloby but it is a proven fact that it has become a problem.
When I was in Iraq our BN gave out Bronze Stars to E-7 and aboves for achievement of just being in the combat zone. E-6 and below recieved ARCOMs. What a croc of ****. Same thing for W-3 and above recieved Bronze Stars and W-2 and below recieved ARCOMs. O-5 and above recieved Bronze Stars and O-4 and below recieved ARCOMs. 90 percent of the E-7 and above, O-4 and above never left the wire. It was the W-3's down to the E-4s that were flying outside of that wire and taking shots from the enemy.
Same with the Air Medal. I am proud of mine because I earned both of mine, but basically if you brought an aircraft to a hover a few days you got the damn medal! So ofcourse all the Staff Officers and QC NCOs came out and got there hour here and there in the traffic patern around the camp inside the wire and got there air medal!
It is bull mkloby and I pray that it is not this way in all units.
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09-18-2007, 12:13 AM
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That(the great bronze star givaway) would seem to go along with my John Kerry Vietnam syndrome theory. Which is as follows: Any politically ambitious jackass that wants to advance his political career by enhancing it with a record of military prowess can set off an explosive device close enough to himself (of course not in doing so, endanger any of his own personnel) to give himself a shrapnel-rash and ensure himself of a spot on some ticket somewhere.
This was all made possibel by the legend of PT109, and boy was that a legend. If I had been Kennedy's CO I would have fired him. First on the grounds of putting his crew in jeopardy and second being run over by a large Japanese ship while asleep. DOH, but we made him president!!!! | |
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09-27-2007, 09:14 PM
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Country: | In the Air Force, you get ribbons for all kinds of non combat related stuff.
Everything from Commendation Medals, Achievement medals, Outstanding Unit Awards, longevity, good conduct, long term deployment overseas and a host of other impressive regalia.
Just stay in long enough and keep your nose clean and you'll catch up to Audi Murphy!
You can look like a real war hero to the unlearned
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09-28-2007, 10:34 AM
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Country: | There is nothing wrong with that either. There are awards given out like that in all services. They are given out for achievment. I recieved an Army Achievment Medal for my work in planning, taking apart and shipping an entire company of aircraft from Germany to the United States.
There is nothing wrong with Achievement an Comendation awards.
The problem is when higher awards are given out like candy.
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