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| | #811 |
| Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lisbon
Posts: 36
| stuka was terrible for alied tanks it was the best tank killer. |
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| | #812 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls
Posts: 6,108
| I got 3 over 10year I for 6 years of undetected bad behaviour and 2 UN tour medals. I just counted the medals I got from my Uncle a grunt in ww2 he has 6 .3 for combat one for Normandy and one for North West Europe one for Italy . 3 for others things like volunteering |
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| | #813 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
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| | #814 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11
| The Stuka started the war, the Sturmovik finished it.... but the Stuka operated in all theatres of operations and was used by more nations than any other aircraft, including the Russians, albeit in a research capacity... which, if ultimately not the best, certainly the most feared and loved tank killer.. |
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| | #815 | |
| Senior Member | Quote:
This is from wiki and I am not totally relying on it. This is what "they" say Operators Bulgaria Bulgarian Air Force Czechoslovakia Czechoslovakian Air Force operated captured aircraft postwar. Germany Luftwaffe Hungary Hungarian Air Force Italy Regia Aeronautica Japan Imperial Japanese Army Air Force received Ju 87s for trials. Romania Romanian Air Force Slovak Republic Slovak Air Force Yugoslavia SFR Yugoslav Air Force operated captured aircraft postwar. UK Operated a few captured aircraft[38] USA Operated a few captured aircraft[39] | |
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| | #816 |
| Senior Member | Is wiki wrong here? |
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| | #817 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11
| According to Manfred Griehl's excellent Junkers JU87 Stuka (Airlife 2001) pg 154.. "At least one JU 87 A-1 was delivered, along with a few other combat aircraft, to the USSR in 1940 and served at the test centre, TsAGI, for a detailed investigation and performance testing" I wondered why the Sturmovik was so similar in appearance to the Stuka.... Wiki sometimes needs an update eh? |
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| | #818 |
| Senior Member | Yes, at times unreliable. I did too. Well thanks for sharing that! |
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| | #819 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11
| You're welcome... Trying to find some info on Horst Woltersforf's Dornier 215 partially recovered recently off the coast of the Netherlands.. recommend any threads? I've been in touch with the recovery company but they only had a partial idenfication of the unit code G9+?M ... see, Wiki is also useful Last edited by Stukazoo; 02-19-2008 at 06:07 PM. |
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| | #820 | |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 273
| Quote:
The prototype Il-2 first flew in October 1939, before the Russians received a Ju-87.
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| | #821 |
| Der Crewchief ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 34,732
| Never use Wikipedia as a golden source! It can be rewritten by anyone and is allways full of mistakes. Wiki is good to use as a quick source but you have to be careful with it.
__________________ ![]() fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" |
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| | #822 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little Norway, U.S.A.
Posts: 816
| Well, I don't care what you guys came up with, I say the Sturmovik delivered a heavy punch, while providing superior protection to the occupants from ground fire. ...however, has anyone compared the P-39/P-63's role in the "Great Patriotic War" against the Sturmo or the Stuka? I think the Bell's were faster and more agile, and that big 37 in the nose gave it a pretty hard punch, too. I also understand the P-38's were wonderful ground strafing machines, due (in part) to the 20mm cannon they carried. However, for tanks, I don't know. Elvis |
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| | #823 | |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 18,708
| Quote:
Is that it???
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| | #824 |
| Der Crewchief ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 34,732
| Welcome back Dan...
__________________ ![]() fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" |
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| | #825 |
| Senior Member | Yea, I was just going there Quickly, I was about to go out to eat. Yea. I guess dan is back! |
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