Best Tank Killer of WW2 continued - Page 65 - Aircraft of World War II

ratdog · 09-25-2008, 05:28 PM

actually the jericho sirenen was not located on the landing strut, rather it was on the bottom of the engine cowling. ;]

ratdog · 09-27-2008, 07:35 PM

nevermind it was on the landing gear OOPS!

kool kitty89 · 09-27-2008, 09:59 PM

You sure, that small "propeller" on the gear leg isn't the siren.

ratdog · 09-27-2008, 10:03 PM

nope im sure i thought they were then i was looking at some ww2 reading material while on the pot and kind of stumbled upon it

Airframes · 10-04-2008, 05:48 PM

Seem to recall that the small 'propellor' on the gear strut is a generator? Also, although a siren was apparently attached to the JU87, and I don't doubt this, I have been told that the 'screaming' noise in the dive was mainly the result of airflow over the dive brakes/ trailing edge slats, which makes sense.

Graeme · 10-04-2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airframes

Seem to recall that the small 'propellor' on the gear strut is a generator? .

Hi Terry. According to this cutaway, it's a siren.

151..."Siren fairing"
153..."Wind-driven siren"

kool kitty89 · 10-04-2008, 09:07 PM

Well that clears that up. Now bact to actual on-topic discussions.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-05-2008, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kool kitty89

Well that clears that up. Now bact to actual on-topic discussions.

How is that not ontopic? They were discussing an aircraft that was used as a tank killer as well...

kool kitty89 · 10-05-2008, 06:59 PM

But we (note I was part of that particular discussion too) were discussing a feature (the siren) not used on the Ju 87G. (as les pointed out on the previous page)

But I guess my comment about it being off topic was a bit unnecessary since that tangent really wasn't interupting any ongoing discussion in this thread.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-05-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kool kitty89

But I guess my comment about it being off topic was a bit unnecessary since that tangent really wasn't interupting any ongoing discussion in this thread.

Thanks

P-Popsie · 10-26-2008, 08:34 AM

To save three days of reading have any conclusions been drawn on this topic or is it still based around the Il-2 vrs the Ju 87G. Are we only taking into consideration number of kills or actuall aircraft capabilities. The Typhoon has no doubt been nominated. Has any consideration been given to the Mosquitoes that flew were given over to ground attack role?

lesofprimus · 10-26-2008, 09:10 AM

No Mossies were not included in the discussion....

It has revolved around 4 aircraft, the 87G, the IL2, the Typhoon and the 190F-8 Panzerblitz..... Most with an educated opinion rank the 190F-8 above the rest...

Most.

kool kitty89 · 10-26-2008, 09:23 AM

Hey, don't forget the Hs 129. (not to mention the US Fighter-Bombers)

I think a P-47D with armed with 10x 5" HVAR would be comperable with the Fw-190. (the Corsair was in there too, but didn't do much in this area -though quite capable-, Japanese tanks not being a major air target. And then there's the Corsair's oil cooler vulnerability -but the same for the Il-2)

P-Popsie · 10-26-2008, 09:36 AM

Cool cheers for that, i of course realize that there are few instances of direct action by mosquitoes against tanks though i would imagine there would be some interesting stories to come out of the Ops. logs of the 2TAF. {Feel free if anyone knows of these Stories} That aside taken on face value the Stability and Firepower of the "Tetse Fly" 57mm armed variant would i immagine pop open a Tiger Tank Quite nicely as a hypothetical

kool kitty89 · 10-26-2008, 10:11 AM

Yes, but how well would the Mossie stand up against ground fire; fairly light wooden construction and liquid cooled engines.

10-05-2008, 06:59 PM	#969
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	But we (note I was part of that particular discussion too) were discussing a feature (the siren) not used on the Ju 87G. (as les pointed out on the previous page) But I guess my comment about it being off topic was a bit unnecessary since that tangent really wasn't interupting any ongoing discussion in this thread. Last edited by kool kitty89; 10-05-2008 at 07:03 PM.

10-26-2008, 08:34 AM	#971
P-Popsie Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 62	To save three days of reading have any conclusions been drawn on this topic or is it still based around the Il-2 vrs the Ju 87G. Are we only taking into consideration number of kills or actuall aircraft capabilities. The Typhoon has no doubt been nominated. Has any consideration been given to the Mosquitoes that flew were given over to ground attack role? __________________ " Now they Shall reap the whirlwind "

10-26-2008, 09:10 AM	#972
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,497	No Mossies were not included in the discussion.... It has revolved around 4 aircraft, the 87G, the IL2, the Typhoon and the 190F-8 Panzerblitz..... Most with an educated opinion rank the 190F-8 above the rest... Most. __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

10-26-2008, 09:23 AM	#973
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	Hey, don't forget the Hs 129. (not to mention the US Fighter-Bombers) I think a P-47D with armed with 10x 5" HVAR would be comperable with the Fw-190. (the Corsair was in there too, but didn't do much in this area -though quite capable-, Japanese tanks not being a major air target. And then there's the Corsair's oil cooler vulnerability -but the same for the Il-2) Last edited by kool kitty89; 10-26-2008 at 09:31 AM.

10-26-2008, 09:36 AM	#974
P-Popsie Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 62	Cool cheers for that, i of course realize that there are few instances of direct action by mosquitoes against tanks though i would imagine there would be some interesting stories to come out of the Ops. logs of the 2TAF. {Feel free if anyone knows of these Stories} That aside taken on face value the Stability and Firepower of the "Tetse Fly" 57mm armed variant would i immagine pop open a Tiger Tank Quite nicely as a hypothetical __________________ " Now they Shall reap the whirlwind "

09-25-2008, 05:28 PM	#961
ratdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: gainesville ga Posts: 91	actually the jericho sirenen was not located on the landing strut, rather it was on the bottom of the engine cowling. ;]

09-27-2008, 07:35 PM	#962
ratdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: gainesville ga Posts: 91	nevermind it was on the landing gear OOPS!

09-27-2008, 09:59 PM	#963
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	You sure, that small "propeller" on the gear leg isn't the siren.

09-27-2008, 10:03 PM	#964
ratdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: gainesville ga Posts: 91	nope im sure i thought they were then i was looking at some ww2 reading material while on the pot and kind of stumbled upon it

10-04-2008, 05:48 PM	#965
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,049	Seem to recall that the small 'propellor' on the gear strut is a generator? Also, although a siren was apparently attached to the JU87, and I don't doubt this, I have been told that the 'screaming' noise in the dive was mainly the result of airflow over the dive brakes/ trailing edge slats, which makes sense.

10-04-2008, 09:07 PM	#967
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	Well that clears that up. Now bact to actual on-topic discussions.

10-26-2008, 10:11 AM	#975
kool kitty89 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,412	Yes, but how well would the Mossie stand up against ground fire; fairly light wooden construction and liquid cooled engines.

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