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05-16-2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Seriously compared to the best up there the G.I was not the best and I think voting for something only because of nationality is pretty lame, but I added it for you. | Thanks, Adler, but I tried to be funny, not a good attempt, probably.
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05-17-2007, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet How do you rank the 110 above the 410, 335, and 187. Granted the 335 and 187 never flew any combat ops but still. | Just because of the 110's work as a nightfighter. I think that it was more successful at that than the 410 was as a dayfighter. And as you said O' Enlighted One, 335 etc... never flew any combat missions....
But hey, I can be less right. Because I'm never wrong.....  
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05-17-2007, 05:40 AM
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Country:  | i vote for the do-335 because is looks great and if it been operationel it beat all of the lists twin engined fighters | |
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05-17-2007, 09:04 AM
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Country:  | Mossie for me purely for its variants. P-38 is closely followed.
AS for the Whirlwind i;ve always marvelled at its beauty all apart from the elevator/rudder area.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Just because of the 110's work as a nightfighter. I think that it was more successful at that than the 410 was as a dayfighter. And as you said O' Enlighted One, 335 etc... never flew any combat missions....
But hey, I can be less right. Because I'm never wrong..... | Please knock it off with with the O' Enlightened One. To me that is mocking and I dont appreciate it...
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05-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Please knock it off with with the O' Enlightened One. To me that is mocking and I dont appreciate it... | I'm really sorry if you take it that way Adler. It is NOT meant to be as mock or anything else in that way, not at all. I'm "saying" that with the outmost felt respect etc, since you know a lot more about aviation etc than I do. Like old days pupils called their teachers Master you know. Sorry Adler. 
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Originally Posted by luftwaffemesserschmitt i vote for the do-335 because is looks great and if it been operationel it beat all of the lists twin engined fighters | If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas
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Country: | The Italians had the Breda Ba.88 twin engine fighter/bomber. It performed pretty poorly, so nobody would vote for it.
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10-26-2007, 03:52 PM
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Country: | I chose the lightning. But, personally I think the FW-187 would have been about as good if it had used the originally planned engines and single-seater configuration (the same as the 110's and 109's engines, and the cockpit was cramped enough without 2 people and there was no room for rear guns.) It would have been a nasty addition at the Battle of britain. In the original configuration its climb and dive rates were at least as good as the 109's and it had twice the range and good maneuverabillity (especially compared to the 110)
The Mossy was great, especially with its versitillity. As fighter-bombers the Mossy and Lightning were only surpassed by their single-engined counterparts the P-47 and Tempest. Though the Mossquito had the advantage of using fewer limited materials due to its wooden construction.
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Country: | Kool surely you meant the Typhoon. | |
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10-27-2007, 12:54 AM
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Country:  | This was tough for me but I had to vote Lightning. The Mossy is my 2nd favorite WW2 aircraft but facts are facts and head to head the lightning is the superior twin engine fighter. Add any other role and we have a new ballgame.
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Country: | Well, though the Tempest saw little service in the war II and had teething problems thought it more comparable to the P-47 as the Typhoon was slower (slower than the Mossie too) and had a much shorter range. While the 2 I chose had comperable range to their country's "counterparts". The Tempest certainly prooved useful in interceping the V-1s (as the Mossie did to a lesser extent), though the P-51B and C also did well at this. (the P-47M has even higher speed performance at 470 mph, not surprising considdering it was designed to intercept V-1s, though it appeared too late for this job)
Besides the P-47 also looked verry similar to the tempest, particularly in the wings, but if you compare the radial engined Tempest II to a bubble-top (actually the Tempest's canopy) P-47 they are VERY similar, with the P-47N's clipped wimgtips, ecen closer! compare: http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/p47n_3v.jpg with http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/tempest2_1_3v.jpg
The Do-335 was also exelent (though outperformed by the XP-47J and XP-72 and almost by the P-47M in speed)
Also there was a fighter varient as the Mosquito F Mk II, this later became the nightfighter version.
quote: "Developed during 1940, the Mosquito F Mk II was developed and the first prototype was completed on 15 May 1941. These aircraft were fitted with four 20 mm Hispano cannon in the fuselage belly and four 0.303 in. Browning machine guns mounted in the nose. This fit required the movement of the crew ingress/egress door from the bottom to the right side of the nose. The aircraft also featured a revised windscreen, with flat bullet proof panels in front, as opposed to the original design."
A 3 or 4 FW-187s were service tested unofficially, but were removed from service when the pilos like it so much they suggested immedate production, possibly since it prooved to make the Bf-110 look bad.
The Meschersmitt "monopoly" on Luftwaffe fighters would not be broken untill the advent of the FW-190. Also, from the front it looks a bit like the Me-262 in shark-like appearance. Alas the bias tward Meschersmitt, the restriction on engine use (not placed on the 110 design) and, less importantly a requirement for a second seat in all models doomed the FW-190. (the He-100 was doomed for similar reasons, ie: engines diverted to Bf-109 and bias tward Meschersmitt products, as well as a veiw that the 109 was "good enough" and it was better to focus on a single fighter design than multiple ones.
see: Focke-Wulf 187 archive file
And I totaly agree that the Me 262 shouldn't be listed here (twin engined jets aren't really comparable to conventional twin engined fighters), plus if you did that you'd have to inglude the He-280, the Ho-229, and the Gloster Meteor. (I'd also say the P-59 Airacomet, but its performance probably wouldn't get ant votes, though its basic design configuration had more potential than was demonstrated)
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