Best World War II Aircraft? - Page 12 - Aircraft of World War II

syscom3 · 05-21-2006, 07:37 PM

For ground attack, the P38 and P47 performed admirably in this role.

Both of them could either fly escort for bombers up at 30,000 ft, or blow things up on the ground.

In the PTO, it was the B25 gunships that performed the ground attack role that shredded the IJA and IJN.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-12-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by syscom3

For ground attack, the P38 and P47 performed admirably in this role.

Both of them could either fly escort for bombers up at 30,000 ft, or blow things up on the ground.

I agree and that is why the P-47 is my favorite US fighter/ground attack. The Tiffy and the Fw-190 could do it just as well as those too though.

ricardox · 06-12-2006, 10:00 AM

hey the p51 was rated the best fighter of any age and the b52 the best bomber of any age guys get your heads out of the comic books lol

FLYBOYJ · 06-12-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ricardox

hey the p51 was rated the best fighter of any age and the b52 the best bomber of any age guys get your heads out of the comic books lol

And your cynical attitude is not appreciated so pull your head out of your derriere - read the full thread dumb@ss, best overall aircraft of WW2.

If you want to stay around I suggest you read some of the other threads and get familiar with some of the members before you start flapping yap!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-12-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ricardox

hey the p51 was rated the best fighter of any age and the b52 the best bomber of any age guys get your heads out of the comic books lol

Alright *******. One more comment like that and myself or another admin is going to give you warning. Consider this your one and only verbal warning. Damn newbies who come on here and talk **** and dont know what they are talking about!

1st of all there are many planes that were just as good or even better than teh P-51D. Everheard of the Ta-152, P-47N, Spitfire 21? Guess not because you have your head so far up your ***!

Second of all what are you talking about comic books. Dont you have school tomorrow? Shouldn't you be at home eating with your parents? There are many people here who have experience in flying here. I am a Blackhawk Guy, Flyboy has flown just about anything, and many many more people with flying experience. Everyone else has experience when it comes to maintenance: myself and Flyboy both have A&P Liscenses, Erich is a world of knowledge of WW2 aircraft, even works with WW2 aircraft at Chino, Syscom is a world of knowledge as well as plan_D, and Lancaster Kicks *** well he knows a lot about the Lancaster, and Les knows a hell of lot about aircraft as well.

So hey do me a favor get your *** out of your comic book and learn about the people here before you make lame *** stupid posts like that. If you choose to come back and be a good member of this forum then you may do so, but I suspect you will run like a little girl.

lesofprimus · 06-12-2006, 07:52 PM

Im too exhausted to add anything about the above meatball that hasnt already been said...

the lancaster kicks ass · 06-13-2006, 04:48 AM

and the P-51 was far from the best fighter ever, she kinda sucked as a dogfighter she's only so famous due to her range and propaganda...........

plan_D · 06-13-2006, 05:43 AM

She's famous because she carried the 8th AF on her shoulders to Berlin and back. That's not propaganda.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-13-2006, 07:54 AM

She was good at what she did but one on one she was only as good as everything else out there. As FlyboyJ put it, there are many aircraft that performed just as good.

syscom3 · 06-13-2006, 12:48 PM

How about we define the "best" plane as the one that had the most impact in the theater it flew in, during various phases of the war.

I would say for the ETO:
Me-109 at the start of the war
Spitfire from the time of the end of the BoB to the introduction of the FW190
FW190 up to the introduction of the P38
P51 from spring 1944 to the end of the war.

For the PTO:
Zero at the start of the war untill the introduction of the P38
P38 till the end of the war
F4U as a carrier based fighter

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-13-2006, 03:14 PM

I would agree with you for the most part and think that you are pretty much correct in your account, but you have to look at who made the what impact for who.

lesofprimus · 06-13-2006, 07:47 PM

I would disagree only with the Fw 190 up until the P-38.... I would go with the Fw 190 up until the P-51D masses......

syscom3 · 06-13-2006, 09:03 PM

The reason I chose the P38, was its phenominal range.

It brought the fight to the Luftwaffe and changed the course of the daylight heavy bombing campaign.

lesofprimus · 06-13-2006, 10:20 PM

That I will agree with...

Pete57 · 06-14-2006, 03:43 AM

Hi

My first post here and glad to be 'onboard'

If we include jet fighters, I'd like to suggest the Lockheed P-80A Shooting Star.

Although its operational career in WW II can only be considered very brief, two examples of the pre-production model - the YP-80A - had been flying in Italy as the MTO detatchment of Project Extraversion (the shipment of 4 YPs to the ETO and MTO, for demonstration and field-test purposes), since early 1945 (they had been shipped from the Con-US on 12/26/1944), and in April 1945 they were with the 1st FG, then based at Lake Lesina, where they were being flown by both Wright Field test-pilots and regular, 1st FG, fighter pilots.

According to Mr. James Bertoglio, then a photographer with the 1st FG, at least one mission was flown 'up north', i.e. toward the front line.

Regards

05-21-2006, 07:37 PM	#166
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,277	For ground attack, the P38 and P47 performed admirably in this role. Both of them could either fly escort for bombers up at 30,000 ft, or blow things up on the ground. In the PTO, it was the B25 gunships that performed the ground attack role that shredded the IJA and IJN. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

06-12-2006, 07:52 PM	#171
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	Im too exhausted to add anything about the above meatball that hasnt already been said... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

06-13-2006, 04:48 AM	#172
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	and the P-51 was far from the best fighter ever, she kinda sucked as a dogfighter she's only so famous due to her range and propaganda........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

06-13-2006, 05:43 AM	#173
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	She's famous because she carried the 8th AF on her shoulders to Berlin and back. That's not propaganda. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

06-13-2006, 07:54 AM	#174
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	She was good at what she did but one on one she was only as good as everything else out there. As FlyboyJ put it, there are many aircraft that performed just as good. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

06-12-2006, 10:00 AM	#168
ricardox Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	hey the p51 was rated the best fighter of any age and the b52 the best bomber of any age guys get your heads out of the comic books lol

06-13-2006, 12:48 PM	#175
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,277	How about we define the "best" plane as the one that had the most impact in the theater it flew in, during various phases of the war. I would say for the ETO: Me-109 at the start of the war Spitfire from the time of the end of the BoB to the introduction of the FW190 FW190 up to the introduction of the P38 P51 from spring 1944 to the end of the war. For the PTO: Zero at the start of the war untill the introduction of the P38 P38 till the end of the war F4U as a carrier based fighter __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

06-13-2006, 03:14 PM	#176
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,150	I would agree with you for the most part and think that you are pretty much correct in your account, but you have to look at who made the what impact for who. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

06-13-2006, 07:47 PM	#177
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	I would disagree only with the Fw 190 up until the P-38.... I would go with the Fw 190 up until the P-51D masses...... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

06-13-2006, 09:03 PM	#178
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,277	The reason I chose the P38, was its phenominal range. It brought the fight to the Luftwaffe and changed the course of the daylight heavy bombing campaign. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

06-13-2006, 10:20 PM	#179
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	That I will agree with... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

06-14-2006, 03:43 AM	#180
Pete57 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Venice, Italy & Odessa, Texas Posts: 7	Hi My first post here and glad to be 'onboard' If we include jet fighters, I'd like to suggest the Lockheed P-80A Shooting Star. Although its operational career in WW II can only be considered very brief, two examples of the pre-production model - the YP-80A - had been flying in Italy as the MTO detatchment of Project Extraversion (the shipment of 4 YPs to the ETO and MTO, for demonstration and field-test purposes), since early 1945 (they had been shipped from the Con-US on 12/26/1944), and in April 1945 they were with the 1st FG, then based at Lake Lesina, where they were being flown by both Wright Field test-pilots and regular, 1st FG, fighter pilots. According to Mr. James Bertoglio, then a photographer with the 1st FG, at least one mission was flown 'up north', i.e. toward the front line. Regards __________________ Pete57

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