 | Best World War II Aircraft?| Aviation Discuss Best World War II Aircraft? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by Freemind757
And in britain, you NEED bad weather navightion.
Britain is like a tuppaware box for weather.
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01-31-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Freemind757  And in britain, you NEED bad weather navightion.
Britain is like a tuppaware box for weather.
Grey in & out.
Besides, my last point is that at the height of the war (june 1942) the spitfire could get over 10,000 ft highter than the mustang.
And height, in a dogfight, is everything. | Spare me jesus ...you have to get out and look around the UK made some good stuff but more of dubious quality\
lets see if I get this right
Spitfire best fighter
Lancaster best bomber
Mosquito best all round aircraft
Argosy best transport
Shackleton best ASW
Magister best trainer
Sunderland best flying boat
Hunter/Lightning the acme of aircraft
Vulcan best strategic bomber
BAC 111 best airliner
BAE 146 best short haul
did I miss any?
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Originally Posted by Freemind757 I was commenting on the best thing to come out of the war in terms of aviation. The jet engine was quite influential. And flyboy needed taking down a peg. | British, Germans, and Italians all made significant advancements in the jet engine. Germans had them operational in an A/C before the Brits. I think you may have misinterpreted FBJ...
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Originally Posted by mkloby British, Germans, and Italians all made significant advancements in the jet engine. Germans had them operational in an A/C before the Brits. I think you may have misinterpreted FBJ... | It's always the same.
1. Europeans Invent
2. Americans realize potential
3. Americans mass-market invention
4. Americans make money
5. Europeans try and sell product but fail because of US competition.
As for the jet engine, the original, first, modern design was british- you can't deny that. 
That's just A design i found for a jet engine on the net | |
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Originally Posted by mkloby what navigation aides do they use in britain that are superior to ours? I was under the impression that navaids are generally standard internationally. | They are. They are standard anywhere you go so that any plane from any country can use them. I have flown all over Europe and have never noticed anything different.
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02-01-2007, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Freemind757 Also, us brits came up with the jet engine your great boeings sport daily flyboy | Not really. At the same time, the Germans were developing one as well and they were the first to operationaly use a jet engine. So you dont get all the credit.
If you really want to go into depth. The first jet engine was built in 1910 by a Romanian named Henri Coandă and built into the the Coandă-1910. It was called a Thermojet and was a hybid between jet and propellor proppelled aircraft. The aircraft only briefly took to the air and crashed on December 16, 1910.
Frank Whittle from England and Hans von Ohain from Germany started designing there "real" jet engines about the same time in the 1930s. Whittles first engine was first started in 1937 and Ohains only 5 months later.
On Aug 27, 1939 the first Germans flew the first jet powered aircraft the He-178. The He-178 was the first Jet powered aircraft. Whittle Jet engine was first flown in an aircraft in 1941 in the Gloster E28/39.
So the Brits only get half credit. 
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Originally Posted by Freemind757 It's always the same.
1. Europeans Invent
2. Americans realize potential
3. Americans mass-market invention
4. Americans make money
5. Europeans try and sell product but fail because of US competition.
As for the jet engine, the original, first, modern design was british- you can't deny that.
That's just A design i found for a jet engine on the net | 
Cry me a river...
Oh and read my post above about the jet engines. The Germans and the British were testing there jet engines at the same time...again you get only half credit.
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Originally Posted by Lt. Mereel I think for the best WW2 aircraft would maybe be the P-51 Mustang. | More to fighting a war than the fighters....
But this is your opinion.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet More to fighting a war than the fighters....
But this is your opinion. | Ok, I didn't do enough baground checks on the jet engine, but now you're online-
The C-47  
Look, it made some impact on the ground, but what about german cargo planes? Vote for the infantry on another site, man, but just because the infantry perform well dosen't mean the plane that crarries the is the best plane in the war.
That's like saying Michael Shumaccer (probably spelt that wrong) is (was) good because of the car he drove. It was a contributing factor, but not neccisarily the most definitive one. | |
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Ok, I didn't do enough baground checks on the jet engine, but now you're online-
The C-47
Look, it made some impact on the ground, but what about german cargo planes? Vote for the infantry on another site, man, but just because the infantry perform well dosen't mean the plane that crarries the is the best plane in the war.
That's like saying Michael Shumaccer (probably spelt that wrong) is (was) good because of the car he drove. It was a contributing factor, but not neccisarily the most definitive one.
| The post above me is about the dumbest sh!t next to this mereel kid....
U actually think all the C-47 did was carry troops??? GO back and read all 11 pages and learn something 757.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by freemeatball757 Vote for the infantry on another site, man | This is our site fu*kbutter, so keep ur smartass comments and little jabs to urself and ur little sister...
And a word of advice, dont bicker with a Moderator, u will lose embarrasingly...
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tante Ju is still flying in Europe: you can actually book a flight on her, with Lufthansa (you can also use your miles) https://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/0index.asp
and the swiss company Ju-Air JU-AIR, Flieger-Museum
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Originally Posted by Freemind757 The C-47
Look, it made some impact on the ground, but what about german cargo planes? Vote for the infantry on another site, man, but just because the infantry perform well dosen't mean the plane that crarries the is the best plane in the war. | The C-47 carried more cargo, supported more operations and did more supply runs than any cargo or transport aircraft of the War. The Aircraft is still in wide spread use today.
Again there is more to winning a war than the fighters. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Freemind That's like saying Michael Shumaccer (probably spelt that wrong) is (was) good because of the car he drove. It was a contributing factor, but not neccisarily the most definitive one. |  Who cares about him Schumacher is an arrogant prick.
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Originally Posted by Freemind757 Vote for the infantry on another site, man, but just because the infantry perform well dosen't mean the plane that crarries the is the best plane in the war. | Do you really think that is all the C-47 did was carry troops. If so you need to learn your history and more about aviation!
Secondly as Les has allready pointed out. I am a mod at his site, I dont need to vote about anything in any other site other this one.
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