Best World War II Aircraft? - Page 76 - Aircraft of World War II

Doughboy · 07-18-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.

That doesn't mean it wasn't a good plane.... Only okay? No, great!.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-18-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Read the title of this thread, it asks what you think is the best aircraft.

So I stated my opinion and who cares what you think, and who cares what I think.

If you think it was the best then go ahead. All I'm saying is that I disagree.

That is fine, but then state it as your opinion, but if you are going to call it inferior to other aircraft, then you better back it up with real facts!

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Why dont you compare the P-51 to the F8F on wikipedia and find out.

I'l be back with some more facts.

You keep comparing apples and oranges!

Comparing the Mustang to the Bearcat is like comparing the F-86 Sabre to the F-4 Phantom! Of course the Bearcat is going to be better, it is a generation ahead of the P-51!

Compare it to contemporary aircraft!

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Well then lets see you find some facts about the not best wwii aircraft.

Especialy when the world is lost saying that the P-51 is the all time best.

Youl probably find 10000 sites that are wrong and say that the P-51 is the best.

No one here is saying it was the all time best. I find it to be a slightly overated aircraft, but fact is fact:

1. It was one of the best aircraft.
2. It was equal to or better than almost anything that saw service in WW2.

You decided to dispute that by comparing it to planes that are a generation ahead of it and by playing video games.

So why should we waste our time finding "proof". If you are going to state something, then you find the facts and prove us wrong.

I have not seen any facts posted by you yet...

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.

That makes it inferior?

That is what you stated, several pages before. Please post the facts that prove that. We are all still waiting.

Elvis · 07-18-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Read the title of this thread, it asks what you think is the best aircraft.

So I stated my opinion and who cares what you think, and who cares what I think.

If you think it was the best then go ahead. All I'm saying is that I disagree.

Not to add to this "fight", but speaking from experience, be careful making statements like the part of your response that I've highlighted in bold letters.
This could get you banned from this site.
....especially if you make that statement to LES OF PRIMUS.

Just saying.

Elvis

Dark Matter · 07-18-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

That is fine, but then state it as your opinion, but if you are going to call it inferior to other aircraft, then you better back it up with real facts!

You keep comparing apples and oranges!

Comparing the Mustang to the Bearcat is like comparing the F-86 Sabre to the F-4 Phantom! Of course the Bearcat is going to be better, it is a generation ahead of the P-51!

Compare it to contemporary aircraft!

No one here is saying it was the all time best. I find it to be a slightly overated aircraft, but fact is fact:

1. It was one of the best aircraft.
2. It was equal to or better than almost anything that saw service in WW2.

You decided to dispute that by comparing it to planes that are a generation ahead of it and by playing video games.

So why should we waste our time finding "proof". If you are going to state something, then you find the facts and prove us wrong.

I have not seen any facts posted by you yet...

That makes it inferior?

That is what you stated, several pages before. Please post the facts that prove that. We are all still waiting.

It is inferior.

Gnomey · 07-18-2009, 08:39 PM

Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence...

Dark Matter · 07-18-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnomey

Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence...

Exactly!

its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.

I just said my opinion.

pbfoot · 07-18-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Exactly!

its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.

I just said my opinion.

Its a fine aircraft but depending on the task there are better , but overall it did a number of tasks reasonably well . Was it the equal of a Spit in a dogfight no but how many Spits were there dogfighting over Berlin in mid 44

Doughboy · 07-18-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

It is inferior.

You have not posted a single bit of proof and until you do, you have nothing to back up that statement!

"Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence... "

My sentiments exactly.

GrauGeist · 07-18-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Thats why the Ford Mustang is such a bad car.

Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.

Kind of a bad thing to state when you're trying to make a point about your opinion.

Like it's aircraft namesake, the Ford Mustang was economical to produce, affordable to purchase and a reliable performer.

It had decent lines and an economical engine (and of course, later options allowed for brutal horsepower) but quickly became an icon and influenced vehicle designs for that class of car, for years.

My personal opinion is that, much like it's aircraft namesake, it's a bit over-rated...however, I can't deny that it was a good machine that delivered on it's designer's promise.

And this is coming from a die-hard Chevy fan/owner.

Dark Matter · 07-18-2009, 11:07 PM

I'm not going to argue!

Its inferior to most planes!

Its not my favorite!

I'm not going to reply anymore!

Its over!

Done!

Doughboy · 07-18-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

It is inferior.

You are trolling! I am done fighting you troll!

"I'm not going to argue!

Its inferior to most planes!

Its not my favorite!

I'm not going to reply anymore!

Its over!

Done! "

Okay, troll.

pbfoot · 07-18-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

I'm not going to argue!

Its inferior to most planes!

Its not my favorite!

I'm not going to reply anymore!

Its over!

Done!

Have you ever seen a real one ? or just a CGI representation?
Its a statement of American industrial stregth the fact that the aircraft went from drawings to production in such a short time and don't forget the fact that Packhard went on to make the Merlin also in a short period of time . Give your head a shake , I can't recall anyone here saying it was the be all to end all

Doughboy · 07-19-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

Have you ever seen a real one ? or just a CGI representation?
Its a statement of American industrial stregth the fact that the aircraft went from drawings to production in such a short time and don't forget the fact that Packhard went on to make the Merlin also in a short period of time . Give your head a shake , I can't recall anyone here saying it was the be all to end all

Yes, I never once said it was the best plane of WWII, I said "one of the best"

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-19-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

It is inferior.

How??????????????????

You keep saying so, but you don't back it up with any facts!! Explain to us with facts how it was inferior to its contemporary aircraft?

I for one do not think it was the greatest thing since bread and butter, but it did do what it was designed to do, and it was at least equal to its opponents. Now prove me wrong...

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

I'm not going to argue!

Its inferior to most planes!

Its not my favorite!

I'm not going to reply anymore!

Its over!

Done!

Very mature!

How old are you???

You make claims (call them opinions, but say you have facts to back them up), then you supply no facts. Fact of the matter is this:

Whether you like the aircraft or not, it was one of the best. Maybe you should have posted in a different thread, about favorites, but not best. So basically you get yourself into a bunch because of your "factual opinions" and then you can't take the heat and run. Way to go kid...

Gnomey · 07-19-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SILVERFISH1992

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnomey

Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence...

Exactly!

its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.

I just said my opinion.

So where is your evidence to support your argument???? You haven't provide any therefore your opinion is worthless....

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Dark Matter Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 382	I'm not going to argue! Its inferior to most planes! Its not my favorite! I'm not going to reply anymore! Its over! Done!