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View Poll Results: Best Pilot Pt. 2
Erich "Bubi" Hartmann, Germany 6 14.63%
Heinz Bär, Germany 14 34.15%
Hans-Joachim Marseille, Germany 6 14.63%
George F. Beurling, Canada 1 2.44%
Adolf Galland, Germany 1 2.44%
Hiroyoshi Nishizawa, Japan 2 4.88%
Saburo Sakai, Japan 1 2.44%
Ivan Kozhedub, Soviet Union 1 2.44%
Aleksandr Ivanovich Pokryshkin, Soviet Union 1 2.44%
James Edgar "Johnnie" Johnson, UK 1 2.44%
Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USA 3 7.32%
Robert S. Johnson, USA 0 0%
Witold Urbanowicz, Poland 4 9.76%
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:55 AM   #121
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Any Czechs on this forum? I think they too had a couple of pilots flying for the RAF.

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Old 05-12-2008, 07:04 AM   #122
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And if there wasnt a Pole on the Poll, who would u place ur vote with???

From the above list I would hesitate between (order as they appear on the list) Hartmann, Baer, Galland, but if I should choose anybody except Poles than I probably would voted for Juutilainen.

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Old 05-12-2008, 08:07 AM   #123
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but if I should choose anybody exept Poles than I probably would voted for Juutilainen.
You're basically admitting that the only reason you voted for the guy is because his nationality is the same as yours. Although in fairness to you, if I were Polish, I would probably also be biased against the Luftwaffe.

But in any case, I still have to say that I'm very surprised that Urbanowicz has 10% of the votes here and that he's only one vote behind Hartmann...
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:09 AM   #124
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:32 AM   #125
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You're basically admitting that the only reason you voted for the guy is because his nationality is the same as yours. Although in fairness to you, if I were Polish, I would probably also be biased against the Luftwaffe.

Not the only reason but the deciding one. A big difference.

And you're right, I'm probably biased against Germans and Russians but I have great respect for some of them for their personal achievements.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:48 PM   #126
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I got to see Marseille's real (and airworthy) plane today! That was totally cool; thanks pbfoot; you're awesome!
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I wonder if Bar and Hartmann will be the final two or not.
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I need to start the next poll. Fell behind when the forum crashed.
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Besides the vote list the best Pilot could be my uncle (old time family friend -not really related) he flew as fighter pilot from 1939 till the very end of 45. Among the planes he flew was also the Ta-152, and the best part is; he never got shot down nor did he shot down anybody - (according to his say)

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...and his name is...?
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...a friend of Joe Owsianik, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn, that was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country.
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Hello everybody,

greetings from a new forum member.

According to the forwarded list I would go along with Heinz Baer, however it struck my mind, that there was a Luftwaffe Pilot who downed 40 or more four-engined bombers. Would anyone of you remember his name? If so I would like to forward that pilot as the No.1


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Haven´t found anyone with more than 40 4 engine kills, more at
Viermot-Killers
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Any Czechs on this forum? I think they too had a couple of pilots flying for the RAF.

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Here you go http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sto...rces-1603.html (S/Ldr Josef Stehlík - In Four Airforces)
That´s my vote...
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Haven´t found anyone with more than 40 4 engine kills, more at
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Killing B-17s and B-24's took the balls of an elephant and a lot of luck to survive the defensive firepower.

Killing fighters, in my opinion, took more skill - and even more luck if the numbers are high.

To me the LW pilot that survived throughout the war on the Kanal Front and ETO is the one that flew against the most capable adversaries..

He flew against everything the Allies had to offer and flew a lot of target rich missions.

I have zero doubt that many VVS, USAAF, USN, RAF, etc pilots had the same skills - but zero had the longevity.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:40 PM   #135
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I have always admired Otto Kittel.But I have a bias for JG54.Kittel had 267 victories when he was killed on Valentines day in 1945,by some IL-2's.
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