 | Which is better, A-6M Zero or the F4U Corsair| Aviation Discuss Which is better, A-6M Zero or the F4U Corsair in the World War II - Aviation forums; The Corsair is the obvious winner here, but keep in mind they are almost a generation apart as far as ... |
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06-12-2005, 10:19 AM
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#16 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | The Corsair is the obvious winner here, but keep in mind they are almost a generation apart as far as technology. The non-self sealing fuel tanks and lack of armor plate led to that plane being a real death trap if you got an enemy aircraft on your tail. For it's day, the Zero was an incredible aircraft. But by the time the Corsair flew onto the scene, the Zero was approaching obsolescence.
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06-12-2005, 11:41 AM
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| Yes, and i agree, but my point is that it was NEVER cannon fodder if flown well.
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06-12-2005, 01:03 PM
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| The Zero was too slow, simple as that...
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06-12-2005, 01:17 PM
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#19 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | actually it's not, it's speed wasn't the only thing that makes the corsair better......
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06-12-2005, 01:23 PM
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Country: | Agreed - although, with a seasoned pilot the Zero will put up a fight, but it's only going to be able to turn and "dance" around for so long before its torn to shreads.
Firepower, strength, and of course armor protection to name a few!
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06-12-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass actually it's not, it's speed wasn't the only thing that makes the corsair better...... | Yes it was ! 
If the Corsair only was as fast as the Zero, the Zero would make mince meat of the Corsair !
Because the Corsair was much faster, it slaughtered the Zero which could do nothing but turn circles and try avoiding getting hit. The Corsair simply B&Z'ed the Zero to death, and there was nothing the Zero could do about it.
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06-12-2005, 01:35 PM
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#22 | | Master of Ewes
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06-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass so you really think that speed is the only reason the corsair is better than the zero.......... | Please tell me, what would the Corsair do against a Zero if it couldnt outrun or outclimb it ?
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06-12-2005, 01:43 PM
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06-12-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Outdive it and defeat it in the "zoom," just like the P-40 did | I think we can agree that the P-40 wasnt superior to the Zero, now can't we ?
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06-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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#26 | | Master of Ewes
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Outdive it and defeat it in the "zoom," just like the P-40 did | I think we can agree that the P-40 wasnt superior to the Zero, now can't we ? | Oh agreed, but through tactics and pilot training it held its own until better aircraft came along.
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06-12-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Quote: |
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Outdive it and defeat it in the "zoom," just like the P-40 did | I think we can agree that the P-40 wasnt superior to the Zero, now can't we ? | Oh agreed, but through tactics and pilot training it held its own until better aircraft came along. | Absolutely, but the same would be true for the Corsair then. 
If the Corsair didnt have its much superior speed, then it was inferior to the Zero.
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06-12-2005, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Soren
If the Corsair didnt have its much superior speed, then it was inferior to the Zero.
| I think you might of had a "Bent wing P-40 with a more durable engine that was able to land on a carrier."
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