 | Which is better: P-47 or Fw-190?| Aviation Discuss Which is better: P-47 or Fw-190? in the World War II - Aviation forums; 20,000ft in 4.75min by a P-47 ! Lets keep logical here...
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06-14-2005, 03:26 PM
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#226 | | Senior Member
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| 20,000ft in 4.75min by a P-47 !  Lets keep logical here...
You've already seen the power and wing-loading stats 
__________________  We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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06-14-2005, 03:32 PM
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#227 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | I'd guess 20,000 by 5.5 min. Does anyone have a P-47M flight manual?
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06-14-2005, 03:37 PM
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| Thanks for your insight.
I may have a line on some Republic Aviation performance specs for the "M" and "N" model and will know more later this week.
The flight manual for the "N" model, however, can be downloaded at: http://www.lanpartyworld.com/ww2/fil...manuals/usaaf/
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06-14-2005, 03:38 PM
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06-14-2005, 03:38 PM
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| A sidenote: The P-47D-25 could reach 15,000 ft in 5 min 36 sec.
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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06-14-2005, 03:41 PM
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| The only interesting information I saw was:
Maximum continuous (Normal rated power) 2,600rpm @ 43.5"
Takeoff (military power) 2,800rpm @ 54"
War emergency power 2,800rpm @ 72"
The engine can be overspeeded to 3,120rpm for up to 30 seconds without damaging the engine.
Weight: empty - 10,998lbs. Useful load varies from 2,824 to 10,199.9lbs.
Wing Area: 322.2 sq. ft. giving a wing loading of approximately 43 lbs sq. ft. with normal gross weight 13,854lbs.
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06-14-2005, 04:49 PM
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#232 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Again, thanks for the download David -
In the -47N POH it states the "C" model 2800 has larger cooling fin area than the B which tell me the cylinder heads are different. From what I could see right now there are no performance charts, although those may be listed in another TO. I'm gonna print this puppy and read through it!
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06-15-2005, 12:56 PM
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#233 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-15-2005, 12:57 PM
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#234 | | He who does not skim
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06-15-2005, 01:10 PM
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#235 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-15-2005, 01:26 PM
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#236 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I went through the P-47N manual and there are no performance charts. This tells me that this data is either listed in another TO or you have calculate it using a performance calculator (it looks like a slide rule). This would be used when carrying a load (ordinance) to calculate climb, speed and fuel burn performance, especially important on hot days and when operating from high elevation airports.
In going back to those FAA documents I posted yesterday, I suspect that the data for the C17 engine is similar if not the same as the R-2800-57 based on the use of 100-130 fuel, which was the most common fuel used during the WW2 period.
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06-16-2005, 05:24 PM
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#237 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ (it looks like a slide rule). This would be used when carrying a load (ordinance) to calculate climb, speed and fuel burn performance, especially important on hot days and when operating from high elevation airports.
| Is it like the Whiz Wheels that we use today. You can calculate lots of things with it including fuel burn rate which really beats doing it out by hand on a piece of paper, epecially as you said on hot days like today was.
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