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Black widow against Greiff (article)

Aviation Discuss Black widow against Greiff (article) in the World War II - Aviation forums; nice article....

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    Black widow against Greiff (article)

    nice article.

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    curious - it looks like American GI's around the P-61 and I notice the right prop is feathered. Since I didn't read the article in German - is it possible that the P-61 made it back to Allied lines, attempted a landing and the nose gear failed?
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    I believe that's what happened - got back and crash-landed. Think Erich has full details on this one.

    Michael Balss is a very respected researcher, so I imagine he's got the story correct.

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    Eric did have something to say about it. I found his answer on another thread in a different forum. Here is the link...
    Northop P61-B "Black Widow"

    His answer is just past the half way part of the page.

    In the realm of dog fighting, if it's a fair fight... you did something wrong.


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    Hauptmann Stotle or Stolle?

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    yes several articles actually in my possession along with the last which was the US pilots daughters account from her Father, variations from both sides as to what happened but the Us Widow pilot freely admits he got in way too close and lucky to have cracked up and downed and KIA

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    THat's pretty interesting, thanks for posting.

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