Could the Hayate Frank out turn a Spitfire? - Aircraft of World War II

Soundbreaker Welch? · 04-16-2006, 09:15 PM

On Wikipedia ,on the topic about the "Fank", it says it could out turn a Spitfire.
I guess the Zero wasn't the only Jap plane that could do it.

The turn rate was one of the best things the Spit had going for it. In Europe, it's tight turn was perhaps it's best manuever in dealing when with a FW. It certainly was one of it's best ways to win a dog fight.

So what do you think? Was the Spitfire matched by it or maybe outmatched?

syscom3 · 04-16-2006, 10:18 PM

As the P38 and P47 pilots discovered, diving and climbing are among the best ways of defeating any fighter.

carpenoctem1689 · 04-16-2006, 11:06 PM

It could out turn the spitfire, as could many of the early war, lightweight fighters the japanese produced. It was the tight turning abilities and medium to low speeds that made them deadly to the allies, with generally heavier aircraft early on. The Hyabusa, or oscar, had special "butterfly" flaps enabling it to out-turn almost anything. The japense put much emphasis on the turning ability of fighters...they wanted dogfighters, not "dive and climb, slashers".

Twitch · 04-17-2006, 12:57 PM

And all that said guys Like Saburo Sakai and his mates still mostly made singluar passes from an altitude advantage on enemy aircraft to defeat them.

04-16-2006, 09:15 PM	#1
Soundbreaker Welch? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,893	Could the Hayate Frank out perform a Spitfire? On Wikipedia ,on the topic about the "Fank", it says it could out turn a Spitfire. I guess the Zero wasn't the only Jap plane that could do it. The turn rate was one of the best things the Spit had going for it. In Europe, it's tight turn was perhaps it's best manuever in dealing when with a FW. It certainly was one of it's best ways to win a dog fight. So what do you think? Was the Spitfire matched by it or maybe outmatched? Last edited by Soundbreaker Welch?; 04-16-2006 at 09:44 PM.

04-16-2006, 10:18 PM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	As the P38 and P47 pilots discovered, diving and climbing are among the best ways of defeating any fighter. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

04-17-2006, 12:57 PM	#4
Twitch Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: City of the Angels California Posts: 809	And all that said guys Like Saburo Sakai and his mates still mostly made singluar passes from an altitude advantage on enemy aircraft to defeat them. __________________

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carpenoctem1689 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 286	It could out turn the spitfire, as could many of the early war, lightweight fighters the japanese produced. It was the tight turning abilities and medium to low speeds that made them deadly to the allies, with generally heavier aircraft early on. The Hyabusa, or oscar, had special "butterfly" flaps enabling it to out-turn almost anything. The japense put much emphasis on the turning ability of fighters...they wanted dogfighters, not "dive and climb, slashers".

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