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01-12-2007, 12:33 PM
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01-12-2007, 12:35 PM
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#17 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | certainly moreso than they've given credit for, they're often said to be weaker than the american bombers but that's mostly the B-17, just what is tougher than a B-17 
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01-12-2007, 10:11 PM
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01-13-2007, 03:26 AM
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#19 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | if you loose an engine in a P-47 you find you'll run out of options very, very quickly as you sink like a 15,000lb stone 
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01-13-2007, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass  if you loose an engine in a P-47 you find you'll run out of options very, very quickly as you sink like a 15,000lb stone | I was trying to find the Power off/clean feathered glide ratio of the 47 - didn't find anything reliable. Saw some that said 1:1, but I wouldn't think that could be right, it's so damn low. At that rate you'd need 6,000ft to glide 1nm 
Even my bulky TC-12B glides at 12:1 clean w/ both props feathered.
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01-13-2007, 12:05 PM
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01-13-2007, 12:08 PM
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Country: | TC-12B has an empty weight of 9000lbs.
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01-13-2007, 12:10 PM
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#23 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i've got the empty weight of the P-47N at 11,000lbs with a MTOW at 20,700lbs, i win
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01-13-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass i've got the empty weight of the P-47N at 11,000lbs with a MTOW at 20,700lbs, i win | Yes lanc... you win. 
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01-13-2007, 01:10 PM
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01-13-2007, 03:10 PM
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#26 | | Master of Ewes
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01-13-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass with mk onboard it's any wonder she gets airborne at all | We usually have to drain some fuel so we can make it under our max T/O weight. Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt308 Simple pleasures. But can she do acrobatics? | I'll tell you the NATOPS prohibited maneuvers, and you tell me if she can do "acrobatics."
1. Abrupt control movements
2. Unusual G loading
3. 50* Angle of Bank in normal category (12,500lb gross wt)
4. 35* AOB in restricted category (13,500lb gross wt)
5. 30* pitch up or down
6. Intentional spins
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01-13-2007, 03:52 PM
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Country: | there's not much you can do about the unintentional ones anyway is there? "holy sh!t we're not allowed to be doing this"
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01-13-2007, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass there's not much you can do about the unintentional ones anyway is there? "holy sh!t we're not allowed to be doing this" | Oh lanc...
1. Power levers -- IDLE
2. Full rudder opposite turn needle
3. Rapid wheel fwd, neutral aileron
4. Neutralize rudder when rotation stops
5. Execute a smooth pullout
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01-13-2007, 04:30 PM
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