Did the RN win the Battle of Britain?

[pbfoot]

Ok the aircraft factor would be nullified but the same restrictions that pertained to the U-boats would also pertain to the RN who used the type 79 and 279 radar
The Type 79 and Type 279 were similar, both using separate transmitting and receiving antennas mounted on their own masts but rotating in synchronization. The antennas were small, resulting in a wide beam, which was adequate for detecting aerial intruders at ranges of up to about 80 kilometers (50 miles), but not so good at targeting naval vessels. It was also not very good at picking up low-flying aircraft.

The need for more precise targeting led Royal Navy researchers to hastily develop a 1.5 meter / 200 MHz radar, the "Type 286", based on the technology Bowen had developed during his AI work. The initial "Type 286M" used a fixed antenna, meaning the ship had to change direction to point the radar beam. The Type 286M could pick up a surfaced submarine at a distance of no more than a kilometer if the vessel carrying the radar was pointed in the right direction.

In March 1941, a Royal Navy destroyer managed to spot a German submarine at night using the Type 286M and then rammed the submarine, sending it to the bottom. However, that was basically nothing more than a stroke of luck. A "Type 286P" with a steerable antenna would be introduced in mid-1941.
U boats could probably transit the whole channel submerged without fear of recharging

[syscom3]

Originally Posted by Hop

Submarines are very bad at attacking fast moving ships. As evidence of that, look at the Queen's during the war. They carried up to 15,000 soldiers at a time, and usually did so without escort, because their speed made them all but invulnerable to U boats.

Amphib craft are slow moving "targets".

[syscom3]

Originally Posted by pbfoot

........ My tactic would have been similar in nature to Zeebrugge or St Nazaire but I would've beached a several large transports on the English shores in the initial assault to enable heavy equipment and supplies to be brought in .
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They would be sitting ducks for the RAF and then artillery.

This tactic would bring complete destruction to any force attempting this type of attack.

The invasion of Britain would be similar in scope and complexity as D-Day. Many different forces all with specialized amphib craft would need to assault the beaches simultaneously, with complete air and sea control. Plus the Germans must have the necessary amphib reserves available to make good the inevitable loss's that would occur.

[pbfoot]

The Brit land forces in the fall of 40 were not in very good shape lacking much of there heavy weaponry with few fixed positions the RAF at night would have been non existent . If the Luftwaffe had continued to attack the airfields instead of switching to urban areas the RAF would have been in the reverse position of aircraft operating on the extremes of their range over the battle field as they would have been moved further north even possibly losing some of the radar stations due to ground action . The Italians had specialized torpedo aircraft SM79's and Cant's that would have caused havoc in the channel for the RN. I think it could've been done but not without heavy costs but it was do able. Also I think panic would have ensued in the UK with the same effects as in France and the Low countries.
The CAF never realized my tactical genius

[syscom3]

In the fall of 1940, the British army was in a far better position of being reorganized, tained and equiped as opposed to the situation after Dunkirk.

As has been said many times, the RAF fighters would have been dispersed out of range of the German fighters and could attack the invading forces when those fighters covering the invasion HAD to return for refueling. And that doesnt take into account the bombers that would have attacked with impunity.

As was proven in the course of the war, you simply cant shut down every airfeild all the time, and its relatively simple to keep the airfields operational for simple tasks such as refueling and rearming.

There is also ample evidence that the Luftwaffe did not have enough fighters and bombers to handle the scope of work it would have if the invasion occured in this time frame. The Luftwaffe had not planned for the attritional losses that was occuring and their forces would be in decline by the fall of 1940.

And all of this is moot as it has been shown the KM didnt have the resources to invade and support a large invasion.

[Meteor]

Still debating this one I see, here is an interesting Link I found;

Operation Sealion

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i link i have already posted just one or two pages back........